Experience with SlickLikeAGato

Squidman24

Squidman24

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Just wanted to make the community aware of an experience I had with member @SlickLikeAGato earlier this evening. As you can see, I have tagged him in this thread as well so he has an opportunity to tell his side of the story if he chooses to do so.

Earlier this evening this member posted a TC Barlow in Red Soup Bone for sale in this thread: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/withdrawn.1569235/#post-17990976

I offered to pay this member his full asking price for the knife he listed for sale and immediately PM'd him to obtain his PayPal information so I could make payment. Anyone who has conducted business with me on this forum knows that I pay fast when purchasing and ship fast when selling. I do my absolute best to conduct my business with integrity.

After I sent the PM to SlickLikeAGato, I noticed that he went back into his thread and removed his pricing information - which didn't strike me as unusual at the time because most folks do that prior to marking the knife and/or thread as SPF or SOLD. I then received a PM from SlickLikeAGato which stated that the knife was being withdrawn and he apologized for any inconvenience. He did not provide any explanation as to why the knife was being withdrawn.

I don't think I can leave negative feedback because this transaction wasn't completed so I thought the next best thing to do was to start this thread to make other members aware of the situation and make up their own minds as to whether or not they chose to deal with this member in the future.

I started this post with the rating of "mixed" so others could weigh in on the subject. If you feel a "bad" is warranted for this member, please state so in your comments and I will change the thread title.

Now for the pics just in case there is any questions about the validity of my above statements.

Original Post:
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Edited Post: (notice pricing info has been removed)
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Withdrawn Post:
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Rule #1
Be 100% sure that you want to sell the item, have it in your possession and clearly list the selling price. There is no "testing the waters" or "gauge buyer interest". No auction or raffle type sale threads.
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To me, this isn't really bad since it's not a scam. But I'd be very wary of someone who pulls an item more than once. Get your pricing straight or ask someone for guidance.
 
I think he had "sellers remorse," once he saw the amount of people that were in on this knife. Seems to me if he was unsure of the price of this knife he should have done some more research or reached out to a member on her for some help on pricing. Instead he listed it at a really low price, and then withdrew. Seems to me bad etiquette, but he should have done his due diligence and made sure he wanted to sell at that price.

I have sold knives for cheaper then they should have been but I felt like passing it along at a reasonable price to a member. I thought that is what was going on here...I guess not. Plain ol' sucks!!!! Squidman24 Squidman24
 
It is my opinion that once you post a price and it is accepted you should complete the deal - too late to back out.
I agree with the comments above - certainly not good, but also not bad - let's go with Ugly.
Bummer Squidman24 - that should have been a great deal for you.
 
He is entitled to sell or not sell to whomever he chooses, or to pull it if he decides to keep it( though better done before a buyer steps in). However if this shows up again in the near future at substantially higher I would consider that bad form. You aren't suppose to be using the exchange to test the waters on pricing.
That's my opinion
 
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tmd_87 said:
I think he had "sellers remorse," once he saw the amount of people that were in on this knife. Seems to me if he was unsure of the price of this knife he should have done some more research or reached out to a member on her for some help on pricing. Instead he listed it at a really low price, and then withdrew. Seems to me bad etiquette, but he should have done his due diligence and made sure he wanted to sell at that price.
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When I saw it for sale (I get alerts for all new threads in that subforum), I tried to jump on it. 3 people already beat me to it. I can only postulate, but I'm with you in thinking that the seller realized his asking price was far lower than what he could get for it.

It's bad form to withdraw after a person says "I'll take it". Moreso when multiple do.

The very first rule for sellers in the Exchange forum says

Sellers/Selling -
  1. Be 100% sure that you want to sell the item, have it in your possession and clearly list the selling price. There is no "testing the waters" or "gauge buyer interest". No auction or raffle type sale threads.
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I agree it is frustrating, and would be even moreso if you had the first "I'll take it". I think I had the 5th hahahaha so yeah it was under market value.

I PMd him with what I considered a good trade offer after the withdrawal and asked why he withdrew it but haven't gotten a response.

As for the original post here, I know this has been discussed ad nauseum but I really REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY wish people wouldn't remove their prices after a sale. Speaking of "maybe the seller should have done more research" how can he? When everyone removes their prices after a sale you either have nothing to go on (which probably led to this under pricing) or only eBay prices to go on (which leads to over inflated prices that don't sell). I think it's a real negative aspect to this community that makes it less of a reference place.
 
I'm with B B.F.U & Lance Leon Lance Leon on the removing pricing. I can understand that after some time those old prices might not be as true but if you don't know somethings value and you dig around you can get a picture of that value. I also like to know them as a buyer to know when someone is gouging me as well if I posted a WTB for a knife knowing that I can actually afford the ball park asking prices.

As for the OP and this situation I would only put this as bad if @SlickLikeAGato "withdrew" to sell it for more to someone else or if he repost it for more w/o ever explaining himself.
 
L.H.S said:
I agree it is frustrating, and would be even moreso if you had the first "I'll take it". I think I had the 5th hahahaha so yeah it was under market value.

I PMd him with what I considered a good trade offer after the withdrawal and asked why he withdrew it but haven't gotten a response.

As for the original post here, I know this has been discussed ad nauseum but I really REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY wish people wouldn't remove their prices after a sale. Speaking of "maybe the seller should have done more research" how can he? When everyone removes their prices after a sale you either have nothing to go on (which probably led to this under pricing) or only eBay prices to go on (which leads to over inflated prices that don't sell). I think it's a real negative aspect to this community that makes it less of a reference place.
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Lance Leon said:
I never understood why people remove prices after selling.
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PirateSeulb said:
I'm with B B.F.U & Lance Leon Lance Leon on the removing pricing. I can understand that after some time those old prices might not be as true but if you don't know somethings value and you dig around you can get a picture of that value. I also like to know them as a buyer to know when someone is gouging me as well if I posted a WTB for a knife knowing that I can actually afford the ball park asking prices.

As for the OP and this situation I would only put this as bad if @SlickLikeAGato "withdrew" to sell it for more to someone else or if he repost it for more w/o ever explaining himself.
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And you know the listed price is the price paid how exactly?

This isn't the place for this discussion. And frankly, having this discussion anywhere at BFC is pointless. That horse is long dead.
 
I gotta say, Squidman24 Squidman24 , I've seen you get trigger happy and claim a knife more than once and then edit your post to "withdrawn" because you went back and actually read the price of the knife. I understand the frustration here because that was a blue-moon of a good deal on that knife, basically cost. But I'm an advocate for fairness. If you get to back out after claiming knives and then deciding you don't want to pay the price, then this guy gets to back out after posting one.

It's none of any of our business why that guy removed his knife for sale. Sure, the rules suggest that we be sure before we post something for sale. But how often do guys withdraw a knife from sale because it hasn't sold within two hours of posting? No one jumps on them for withdrawing. So obviously it's not about withdrawing the knife. It's about wanting something that someone can't have. How often has anyone here made a decision that he or she regretted? If you had the opportunity to see the regret coming and not go through with something, wouldn't any of you be grateful that you got that reprieve?

We are very fortunate to live in a society where we aren't forced to sell or relinquish property if we don't want to. But how entitled to demand that someone sell something just because I want to buy it? If this guy were pulling that move on a regular basis, I can see justification to complain and not deal with him. I'll bet everyone here has been given a second chance somewhere in life. GBU is about deals gone well or bad. There wasn't even a deal done here.
 
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traumkommode said:
I gotta say, Squidman24 Squidman24 , I've seen you get trigger happy and claim a knife more than once and then edit your post to "withdrawn" because you went back and actually read the price of the knife. I understand the frustration here because that was a blue-moon of a good deal on that knife, basically cost. But I'm an advocate for fairness. If you get to back out after claiming knives and then deciding you don't want to pay the price, then this guy gets to back out after posting one.

It's none of any of our business why that guy removed his knife for sale. Sure, the rules suggest that we be sure before we post something for sale. But how often do guys withdraw a knife from sale because it hasn't sold within two hours of posting? No one jumps on them for withdrawing. So obviously it's not about withdrawing the knife. It's about wanting something that someone can't have. How often has anyone here made a decision that he or she regretted? If you had the opportunity to see the regret coming and not go through with something, wouldn't any of you be grateful that you got that reprieve?

We are very fortunate to live in a society where we aren't forced to sell or relinquish property if we don't want to. But how entitled to demand that someone sell something just because I want to buy it? If this guy were pulling that move on a regular basis, I can see justification to complain and not deal with him. I'll bet everyone here has been given a second chance somewhere in life. GBU is about deals gone well or bad. There wasn't even a deal done here.
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This is a fine point, and it also makes me think of times I've seen folks on the buying end who post first, but get passed over for some undisclosed reason. It is easy to assume the worst when you are the one disappointed with the outcome.

All the same, there are better and worse practices for sellers (and buyers) that make for more reasonable and just transactions. I think it is a valid concern if bad patterns persist. A lot of the problems (not all, but a lot) could be solved by more careful communication.
 
Andrew,

You are correct in all of your statements made above. Again, I started this thread to make the community aware of what happened - nothing more or less. I wasn't out to bury anyone and I thought I handled myself like a gentleman. If you disagree, let's discuss via PM if needed. I know that I would want to be made aware of this situation so that I could make up my own mind in regards to whether or not I wanted to conduct business with that member. I told the member I was going to open this thread via PM, his original for sale thread and I tagged him in this thread. All of those efforts were taken to give him a fair opportunity to explain the situation if he chose to do so. As of yet, he has chosen not to speak on the subject and that is, as you point out his right. Just to reiterate this thread was for awareness purposes only - nothing more or less.

If I used this portion of the forum for something other than its intended purpose than my assumption is that a Mod would make the necessary corrections and reach out to me to explain where I went wrong.
 
Squidman24 said:
Andrew,

You are correct in all of your statements made above. Again, I started this thread to make the community aware of what happened - nothing more or less. I wasn't out to bury anyone and I thought I handled myself like a gentleman. If you disagree, let's discuss via PM if needed. I know that I would want to be made aware of this situation so that I could make up my own mind in regards to whether or not I wanted to conduct business with that member. I told the member I was going to open this thread via PM, his original for sale thread and I tagged him in this thread. All of those efforts were taken to give him a fair opportunity to explain the situation if he chose to do so. As of yet, he has chosen not to speak on the subject and that is, as you point out his right. Just to reiterate this thread was for awareness purposes only - nothing more or less.

If I used this portion of the forum for something other than its intended purpose than my assumption is that a Mod would make the necessary corrections and reach out to me to explain where I went wrong.
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So we're only supposed to participate in this thread if we agree with you? I think that if this guy has to go through a public haranguing for withdrawing his knife from sale, then I'm going to keep my comments quite public about the unfair double standard. Aren't you glad that you weren't forced to buy the knives that you claimed and a moment later decided you didn't want? People do this all the time in the exchange as buyers and it's just a drop in the bucket when that happens. Again, I think I would be regarded as entitled if I demanded that someone explain his/herself like this, and then used a GBU thread as leverage to assert myself.

I understand that it's frustrating to not have access to something so desirable. Trust me, there are plenty of knives I've wanted but haven't been able to get. The limited supply is a double edged sword - it aids in the knife's specialness, but it creates a necessary lack to do so. That's the game.

People come to the porch because it's a welcoming, inclusive atmosphere. Porch members help each other and watch out for each other and support each other, and that's why we all love it. As far as I can tell, the best this awareness has done is work towards alienating someone, and as a member of the Porch that isn't the impression of this forum that I want to convey to anyone.
 
Squidman24 said:
Andrew,

You are correct in all of your statements made above. Again, I started this thread to make the community aware of what happened - nothing more or less. I wasn't out to bury anyone and I thought I handled myself like a gentleman. If you disagree, let's discuss via PM if needed. I know that I would want to be made aware of this situation so that I could make up my own mind in regards to whether or not I wanted to conduct business with that member. I told the member I was going to open this thread via PM, his original for sale thread and I tagged him in this thread. All of those efforts were taken to give him a fair opportunity to explain the situation if he chose to do so. As of yet, he has chosen not to speak on the subject and that is, as you point out his right. Just to reiterate this thread was for awareness purposes only - nothing more or less.

If I used this portion of the forum for something other than its intended purpose than my assumption is that a Mod would make the necessary corrections and reach out to me to explain where I went wrong.
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I count at least 6 threads where you as the seller have deleted your posts and written "withdrawn". I also count at least 3 threads where you as a buyer have deleted a post and written withdrawn.

Should the buyers and sellers in those threads who got screwed have started a thread on you? I mean, that is what you did here, for awareness purposes of course.

Think about it.
 
I didn't demand for anyone to explain themselves, I simply made the member aware that the thread was going to be posted so he could do so if he so chose. If you re-read the first sentence of my OP, it clearly states that. Also per your statement "People come to the porch because it's a welcoming, inclusive atmosphere. Porch members help each other and watch out for each other and support each other, and that's why we all love it." - that was the whole intent of this thread. To inform the members of the porch and allow them to make their own decisions. I'm not sure how you are interpreting it as me trying to alienate another member, but you are entitled to your opinion.
 
craytab said:
I count at least 6 threads where you as the seller have deleted your posts and written "withdrawn". I also count at least 3 threads where you as a buyer have deleted a post and written withdrawn.

Should the buyers and sellers in those threads who got screwed have started a thread on you? I mean, that is what you did here, for awareness purposes of course.

Think about it.
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I think you'll find most of those threads were "withdrawn" because the posting had become two weeks of age or older (with no buyers) and I most likely relisted the item - I believe those are the forum rules if I'm not mistaken. Again, my intent was to bring awareness, not start a dog pile - if that is how this is being interpreted by the two of you then as I said you are entitled to your opinions. Based on the posts so far in this thread, this is obviously an issue that is going to have folks see it one way or another. Have I withdrawn on two sales as a buyer? I have, and I can honestly say that if the sellers in those threads would've started an informative thread about me to let others know, I wouldn't have blamed them.
 
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