Experience with SlickLikeAGato

Squidman24 said:
I think you'll find most of those threads were "withdrawn" because the posting had become two weeks of age or older (with no buyers) and I most likely relisted the item - I believe those are the forum rules if I'm not mistaken. Again, my intent was to bring awareness, not start a dog pile - if that is how this is being interpreted by the two of you then as I said you are entitled to your opinions. Based on the posts so far in this thread, this is obviously an issue that is going to have folks see it one way or another. Have I withdrawn on two sales as a buyer? I have, and I can honestly say that if the sellers in those threads would've started an informative thread about me to let others know, I wouldn't have blamed them.
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Can you imagine the clutter this place would have if every time a person withdrew from a transaction there was a thread about it? And how are we to know when you withdraw as a seller you are only doing so to relist? BTW, when I take down a thread to relist it I write the word "relist" as that is what I am doing, not withdrawing the item.

You got slightly burnt. It happens to all of us. You yourself have done it several times, possibly more. Making a thread about one instance is petty, especially because you don't really know the reason why. Note the buyer, don't do business with him/her again, and move on. That is what most of us do.
 
traumkommode said:
So we're only supposed to participate in this thread if we agree with you? I think that if this guy has to go through a public haranguing for withdrawing his knife from sale, then I'm going to keep my comments quite public about the unfair double standard. Aren't you glad that you weren't forced to buy the knives that you claimed and a moment later decided you didn't want? People do this all the time in the exchange as buyers and it's just a drop in the bucket when that happens. Again, I think I would be regarded as entitled if I demanded that someone explain his/herself like this, and then used a GBU thread as leverage to assert myself.
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I agree with this 100%. Buyers withdraw their offers all the time with zero consequences. I don't see why sellers should be held to a different standard. I'm shocked that anyone here has a problem with this behavior.

The fact that the OP has withdrawn buying offers before makes this thread absurdly hypocritical and in seriously poor taste and makes me want to avoid him for exchange purposes, not the subject of his post.
 
Only difference I will point out is that when a buyer withdraws there is often in my observation already a 2nd buyer waiting where when a seller withdraws all buyers are out the opportunity. This isn't to say that one is right and one is wrong just that perhaps one is more right or more wrong than the other. To really judge this or any situation is difficult and often depends on actions people take from the point it was withdrawn.
 
PirateSeulb said:
Only difference I will point out is that when a buyer withdraws there is often in my observation already a 2nd buyer waiting where when a seller withdraws all buyers are out the opportunity. This isn't to say that one is right and one is wrong just that perhaps one is more right or more wrong than the other. To really judge this or any situation is difficult and often depends on actions people take from the point it was withdrawn.
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Ah, but the opposite can be true also. A buyer commits with an "I'll take it", other buyers move along thinking the item is spoken for. Buyer drags feet and then withdraws. If your item is in a high volume section, your ad is now on page two, no other buyers will see it, and you can't relist for 14 days. That hurts way worse than a buyer missing out on what is often a collectors luxury item.
 
PirateSeulb said:
Only difference I will point out is that when a buyer withdraws there is often in my observation already a 2nd buyer waiting where when a seller withdraws all buyers are out the opportunity. This isn't to say that one is right and one is wrong just that perhaps one is more right or more wrong than the other. To really judge this or any situation is difficult and often depends on actions people take from the point it was withdrawn.
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I really don't see how this matters. Either BF operates on the principle that a "deal" happens the moment that goods and/or currency exchanges hands or it doesn't.

We accept the cross-posting of sales threads to other forums, limiting sales to the U.S. only, requiring feedback from buyers, buyers withdrawing at a whim, and "I reserve the right to sell to whomever I want to for any reason" disclaimers but we'll piss on a guy for withdrawing his sale?

It's ludicrous.
 
L.H.S said:
I thought GBU threads were only supposed to happen when something was exchanged
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Turns out you are correct sir. It appears that I may have opened this prematurely.... and it did in fact backfire as the rules clearly state it could.

My apologies if I was wrong, my intent wasn’t to piss on anyone it was merely to share information amongst the community. I’m man enough to admit when I was wrong and I hope that means something but if it doesn’t, I understand that as well.

I do see quite a few threads in this sub forum that don’t necessarily have to do with completed transactions gone right or wrong though, but bad on me for contributing to the off topic threads.

  1. Threads started in the Feedback: G, B, & U section should contain facts that support your reason for starting a thread. Remember there is a difference between opinion and fact. Keep your topic civil or hold off posting until you've composed yourself. Complaining about a person that has exercised their rights as a seller or buyer does no good, and it may backfire on you.
 
craytab craytab You certain bring up a valid point and I am mostly saying both are wrong just the degree of wrong may not be the same and there are valid reasons to withdraw either side so I can't fault anyone in absence of many details.
 
L.H.S said:
I thought GBU threads were only supposed to happen when something was exchanged
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I do not believe that is the case although the instructions at the top of the sub sort of say that. I know that is the rule for leaving itrader feedback (is that what it is still called?)

Perhaps @Boru13 can clarify.

And good on the OP for admitting wrong and changing the thread title.
 
Squidman24 Squidman24

Mistakes happen and a man who owns his mistakes can learn and grow whereas a man who covers them is bound to repeat them. Thanks for owning up. I’m guessing everyone will forgive you.

For what’s its worth I’m sorry I chimed in with my hasty 2 cents. Maybe a good rule of thumb is to take 24 hours to let things settle and give folks a chance to respond in a DM even when a transaction is clearly sour, since none of us think clearly and justly when we’ve been offended or wronged (really or only in perception).
 
L.H.S said:
I thought GBU threads were only supposed to happen when something was exchanged
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craytab said:
Perhaps @Boru13 can clarify.
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Not sure why you would think that B B.F.U , any member is entitled to share the experience that they have had with another member on the forums regardless of whether a transaction took place or not.

Personally I don't mind threads like this at all, sometimes it can give you some insight as to the character of an individual that you might possibly deal with in the future, to me that's a good thing.

I do have a problem when a member will list a item for sale, then withdraws it after another member states they will take it.

Nobody really knows why the member in question withdrew the knife as he has not posted in this thread or his for sale thread explaining why and that is his prerogative. I guess if the knife shows back up for sale in a couple of weeks then everybody might know the reason.

Just for clarification, I also have a problem when a buyer says "I'll take it", then backs out of the deal for whatever reason... one member has already been banned for doing this repeatedly.
 
Backing out of a commitment does seem "ugly" to me. I would think twice about dealing with someone who is regularly impulsive.
 
I think the only valid gripe for OP here is that there is a lack of transparency and silence from the seller I would say same goes for any buyer who does this. I won't post openly why I would withdraw an I'll take it and I would post some answer to why I would withdraw a sell if I ever did either.
 
Perfectly legal, but extremely bad form to back out after a member accepts the deal. While the seller is totally entitled to back out of the deal, I have zero respect for the person that does this.
 
I saw this listing after the knife had been spoken for and the asking price seemed way too low to me. I've seen this before on BF where someone lists something for a price grossly under the value. Then everyone piles on saying I'll take 5ths, 6ths, etc. I assume at this point the seller feels embarrassed and maybe ridiculed. The seller withdraws and the first in line misses out on an excellent deal. Maybe someone gave the seller the heads up that their price was too low, if not, maybe they should have (me included).

As some have said, I don't see much of a difference as withdrawing an "I'll take it" as withdrawing a knife after an "I'll take it".
 
Vaporstang said:
I saw this listing after the knife had been spoken for and the asking price seemed way too low to me. I've seen this before on BF where someone lists something for a price grossly under the value. Then everyone piles on saying I'll take 5ths, 6ths, etc. I assume at this point the seller feels embarrassed and maybe ridiculed. The seller withdraws and the first in line misses out on an excellent deal. Maybe someone gave the seller the heads up that their price was too low, if not, maybe they should have (me included).

As some have said, I don't see much of a difference as withdrawing an "I'll take it" as withdrawing a knife after an "I'll take it".
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I think you may be correct. Also, it is quite possible he was messaged with a better offer.
 
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