Experience with Wicked Sharp

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Wicked Sharp

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What does "layaway" mean to you??? I think the moderators of this forum will find our PM communications very interesting. Good Luck with your sale!!!:)
 
I have never had to do this before, but I am truly disappointed in Wicked Sharp. He agreed to buy a Hartsfield "Strong Boy" on a payment plan from me, but never consumated the deal with the first payment. I don't know why he felt that a "1st"payment was not needed, but he left me hanging without one for a week. I PM'd him several times after he agreed to buy the knife, but he never sent a payment. Now, I gave him 6 to 8 weeks to pay off the knife, not 6 to 8 weeks to make the first payment. It did not dawn on me to check his feed back until after I had not heard a thing from him in a week. Then I see where he has agreed to buy a knife, but then back out of the deal.

Is it me, but when do you agree to "make payments" but then never make a first payment, usually called a "down payment". Am I wrong about this?

Here are our PM messages. Note the part where he will get payment out "within the next few days." However, a week goes by, no PM saying the money is in the mail. My listing indicated I needed cash for a car repair, yet he decides that he has all the time in the world. He has since left a nasty itrader response. For someone with his bad reputation from itrader to state that I never made terms for a down payment as a "way out" of the deal, he has some nerve. I have been nothing but an honest broker on Bladeforums for the MANY years I have been coming here. I have never dealt with someone who thinks a down payment is not needed when he himself indicated that he would be sending a payment in a few days. Please BLADEFORUMS, be careful when dealing with this person. I will never sell him anything, even if he pays double for it!!



Thanks again for the opportunity. I know it will exceed my expectations.





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Originally Posted by FEDKNIFELOVER
The knife is like pictured. If you want to see current pics, I can send them, but it is the same. As far as unused, it has been used to cut a few things, such as paper, some leather, etc. To test the sharpness. It is still extremely sharp and has no marks or scratches on the blade. There is no documentation. I bought it from a person on another forum, who gave me the specs. Phill's son still makes knives and can verify this knife if you send him the photos. Additionally, you can send the blade to him and he can sharpen it as needed (part of the lifetime warranty), just go to their website for the details. My mailing address is ****EDITED****.

Sean


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Originally Posted by Wicked Sharp
No..., I'm sorry, but I don't have ANY Graymans. I would prefer to MAIL USPS money orders or checks to you, if that is acceptable. I don't use Paypal. Also..., I just wanted to confirm that the knife is in NEW / UNUSED / UNSHARPENED condition (just noticed that the pics. are not current). Also..., are there any markings or paperwork regarding the steel in this particular STRONGBOY? THANKS AGAIN!!!






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Originally Posted by FEDKNIFELOVER
No problem. My paypal address is seanlynum@msn.com . Make sure to PM or email when you send a payment so I can look out for it. By the way, do you have any Grayman knives?

Thanks

Sean


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Originally Posted by Wicked Sharp
Thanks very much. I wasn't sure if I would ever get the chance to own a Strongboy with Phill's passing. I can definitely have it completely paid for within 6 to 8 weeks. Please provide me your mailing address, and I will get a payment out within the next few days. THANKS AGAIN.





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Originally Posted by FEDKNIFELOVER
I am open to whatever you can do. Obviously, I would prefer that it be paid for within 6 to 8 weeks. So you can dictate whatever terms you can afford in that timeframe. Beleive it or not, I bought this very knife on a payment plan, so I understanding in this case. I will go ahead and mark it sold pending funds.

Sean


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Originally Posted by Wicked Sharp
I will take it, but I would be interested in what kind of payment plan would be acceptable to you. Please let me know, and I will get back to you immediately. But either way..., I will take it. THANKS!!!



Here are the two additional PM's I sent a week later to ask about the payment since I was leaving town for a few days:

11/5/2010 3:30pm


I am going to be going out of town for work and wanted to know when you mailed the first payment. My wife will look out for it. Thanks

Sean

11/7/2010 2:37pm


I have not heard from you yet. I have to assume that you no longer want the knife, and that is ok, but I wanted to sell it because I needed cash. As I will be heading out of town tomorrow, I will wait until then to see if you still want the knife. If I have not heard from you by tomorrow morning, I will go ahead and re-list the knife. Please let me know either way.

Thanks,
Sean
 
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Please refer to the "HALL OF SHAME" when dealing with "Wicked Sharp". All of our PM's have been posted for everyone to see!

Moderator, please give this person a warning for his post. "Lay Away" requires a down payment, hence the term "Lay Away".
 
Gentlemen, listen up.

Posts # 1 and 3 were moved here from a sales thread. Arguing in a sales thread is a violation of the updated Exchange rules. Please read the rules and learn them.

Rules for the Exchange forums - COMPLETELY REVISED, 10/30/2010
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/announcement.php?f=746&a=98​

Post # 2 was moved from the Hall of Shame. Entries to the Halls of Fame and Shame are at the discretion of the Administrator, not just someone with a complaint. That's what the FEEDBACK forum itself is for.
 
Sorry, Wicked Sharp, but you're in the wrong here. Ask any woman what the terms of a lay-away are. She'll tell you that you make an immediate down payment and then regular payments thereafter, until paid off. Miss a payment and the seller can put your item back in stock and refund whatever you've already paid. You screwed up, not the seller.
 
HDCharlie said:
Sorry, Wicked Sharp, but you're in the wrong here. Ask any woman what the terms of a lay-away are. She'll tell you that you make an immediate down payment and then regular payments thereafter, until paid off. Miss a payment and the seller can put your item back in stock and refund whatever you've already paid. You screwed up, not the seller.
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And therein lies the problem!!!:D

My wife loves layaway, On Monday she "buys" $2000 worth of Xmas gifts with only a $200 first payment.

Then she does it all over again...........................BUT you gotta make that first payment!!
 
In fairness folks..., I agree that a "first payment" is required. However..., "within a few days" means "within a few days." I work a government job in a rural area without immediate (or even convenient) access to a Post Office. I would have made the payment at my earliest convenience, but there was NEVER..., I repeat NEVER a specified time frame for payments on the part of the seller or myself with the exception of the seller's requirement that the knife be completely paid for in 6-8 weeks. If you can wait 6-8 weeks for payment, it seems a little ridiculous to require receipt of the first payment within seven (7) days particularly when you didn't specify that up front, and then relisted the knife and trashed me for not paying for it because I didn't respond to you in a timely manner. You must be joking??? No..., really, you must be SMOKING!!! Also..., I would like for everyone reading this to note that I recently GAVE AWAY over FIVE-HUNDRED DOLLARS ($500.00) in knives on this forum for free and paid the shipping to the lucky recipients, and I have quite a few positive feedbacks, as well. The whiner in this thread doesn't have to worry about selling me ANYTHING else. HE/SHE couldn't afford it!!!:D:D:D
 
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Oh..., just for the accuracy of the record...., "layaway" was the term that I used in my response on the sales thread. The seller specified a "payment plan," without a clearly defined plan. I guess the plan was to trash me when he/she didn't get the money quick enough to make auto repairs.:rolleyes:
 
Without taking sides, I will say I'm glad WS has been participating so openly here.
I modified the thread title.
 
I can vouch for the generocity of Wicked Sharp as the lucky recipient of one of his giveaways, this beautiful G.L.Drew Puuko.

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Wicked Sharp said:
In fairness folks..., I agree that a "first payment" is required. However..., "within a few days" means "within a few days."
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I guess your definition of "the next few days" is more liberal than the seller's. Your earliest convenience must not have matched his expectations. With no communication explaining yourself, I'd have dumped you too. You may not have ready access to a post office, but I'd bet you do a computer. :rolleyes:
 
I have had good transactions with WS in the past...lots of crap going on in the sale forums these days.

I'm sure fed and WS are good guys ...to bad this couldn't be handled in private.
 
I don't know either of you but this is what I have read in this thread.

FEDKNIFELOVER said:
My listing indicated I needed cash for a car repair.....

Obviously, I would prefer that it be paid for within 6 to 8 weeks.

I have to assume that you no longer want the knife, and that is ok, but I wanted to sell it because I needed cash.
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If you needed cash so quickly, why would you offer/agree to a 2-month payment plan?
It sounds like "I need money right now, you have 2 months." Doesn't make sense. :confused:
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Wicked Sharp, it might be helpful if you were more exact in your response.
A "few" to most is not over a week, rather 3 to 4 days. IMO
1 is one day, a couple is 2 days, a few is 3-4 days, a week or so etc...
 
I apologize to ALL, including the seller, for the way this transaction was handled. Perhaps the sale could have been handled better on BOTH sides of the equation. Moving on.:)
 
As far as needing cash quickly, I do and a little is better than none in my book. As far as a "few days" with regards to what Wicked Sharp told me, I was expecting a few days. After 5 days, with no communication from Wicked Sharpd stating that he mailed any money, I sent him a pm see if maybe the 1st payment was already in the mail. At that point, I was assuming it was and was hoping to hear back from Wicked Sharp either that day or the next. But two days go by and no answer to my PM. At this point, I am wondering what is going on. In the mean time, I had to tell several people who wanted the knife that it was no longer available. I decided after my second PM to him, to check out his itrader status:jerkit:. Well, low and behold, he has had similiar issues with saying he would take a knife and then backing out. Well, at that point, I went back to the people who wanted the knife, and they had moved on (bought other Hartsfields).

I am the first to apologise if I was wrong to jump the gun here, but, Wicked Sharp could and should have responded to my PMs. He asked for more pics, i posted them in the thread. I told him, after he asked, that the knife was exactly as pictured. Either you believe me or you don't. If someone changes their mind about a knife, which I have a few times, then you tell the seller immediately, so that that person can relist the item. My concern here is Wicked Sharp's lack of communication in this matter.

I have no doubt he is a stand up guy based on the feedback left by other people, but communication is key for any transaction. As far as me leaving the door open on a down payment. I saw that he had stated that he was sending payment in a few days. That sounded to me like a down payment folks, no need to remind him of something that he was already aware he needed to do.

As far as I am concerned, this matter is closed. Wicked Sharp, please accept my apology if I handled this wrong, but when someone says they will do something, I take them at their word. In my profession, your word is all you have. A PM from you either asking for more info (although before saying you wanted the knife, you probably should have asked your questions first, which would have been fine) or stating that you had changed your mind about the purchase, would have sufficed. But when no email or PM was sent after a week, what was I left to think?

Sean L.
 
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