Extremely dissapointed with the Black Friday sales this year

darkdomino said:
It's "entitled" to want to save money?
What planet do you live on exactly?
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No, it's entitled to expect a big markdown on an item that a dealer normally makes very little money on. It's entitled to expect to save money on toys you don't even need.

northend816 said:
I think what people like myself mean is there was alot of ads and hype put out there by many dealers about big sales. This got people like us worked up so when sale came around we were let down because it wasnt Big at all just a sale. I agree we get get deals all the time but it was just the way the ads were run that made us think we would be saving big bucks. Yeah it wasnt big deal to me I still bought few knives from dealer who didnt have a sale and even more off exchance Im happy
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Anytime you buy into hype and ads you deserve to be disappointed. Sounds like you got what you deserve.
 
Ritt said:
No, it's entitled to expect a big markdown on an item that a dealer normally makes very little money on. It's entitled to expect to save money on toys you don't even need.
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First off, who are you to tell anyone what they need or don't need?

Second off, the fact that a dealer makes very little money on an item is.. at the end of the day... their problem.

I'm not running a charity over here, and neither are the knife shops. They offer high and the customers go low. You're acting like you don't know how basic commerce works.
 
darkdomino said:
First off, who are you to tell anyone what they need or don't need?
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Knives are a luxury, not a necessity.

darkdomino said:
Second off, the fact that a dealer makes very little money on an item is.. at the end of the day... their problem.
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The fact that you don't make enough money to afford knives, at the end of the day, is your problem. Not anyone elses.


darkdomino said:
I'm not running a charity over here, and neither are the knife shops. They offer high and the customers go low. You're acting like you don't know how basic commerce works.
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Knife shops really don't offer high. There's a reason B&M knife shops are going out of business.
 
I traded a collectible, out of production knife for Christmas gifts at a local knife shop. He was going to offer Black Friday deals, I was there a couple weeks ago. His brick and mortar shop has great prices. Another one, local, same as the other one two hours is local, had Black Friday sales. Both stores had them primarily on kitchen knives. Chris Reeve, William Henry and customs probably won't be discounted. If you have the luxury of visiting your local knife shop, and have been a loyal customer, and are about to spend some scheckels, you might be able to bring the $ down. Remember that they are competing with the big box deals down the road at Walmart, Dicks, Gander Mtn. Cabelas and Bass Pro among others. My $ is hard earned, but, if you develop a relationship with your dealer, they may just offer to cut some off the top to keep you. Most of those same emails I got are just phishing emails to get your e-ass in the door. I've got a couple discount coupons burning a hole in my mouse for Knives Ship Free. He's got Chris Reeve, 10% off coupons, sounds good to me.

These dealers are trying to get the traffic, same as any big box store. Just be glad you won't get trampled by an angry mob sitting at your computer.
 
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Cereal_killer said:
... us consumers demand a Black Friday sale that's something better than the same sale you have for every other holiday!
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What is Black Friday? What is Cyber Monday? Are they like greeting card holidays, that don't commemorate anything significant, but get the advertisers a little extra business? Sorry, guys, I''m not into advertising.

Follow the Exchange here, follow a few good reliable online dealers who always seem to have decent pricing, and watch for their sales. Keep a few bucks in the bank and jump on a deal whenever it's out there.

These artificial occasions are even sillier than taking religious and patriotic events as an excuse to go get drunk.
 
Invective said:
Knives are a luxury, not a necessity.
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I encourage you to tell that to any law enforcement officer, member of the military, hunter, or fisherman... Just to name a few.

I'll ask you again, since you seem to have trouble reading. Who exactly do you think you are, telling people what they need and don't need?

The fact that you don't make enough money to afford knives, at the end of the day, is your problem. Not anyone elses.
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Since when did I ever say it was? When I buy something, I try to save money wherever possible. It's as simple as that. I'm not sure what part of this is strange or confusing... Human beings like saving money. This isn't up for debate. It's facts. It's as reliable as gravity.

Knife shops really don't offer high. There's a reason B&M knife shops are going out of business.
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I'm not sure how you can make such a broad sweeping claim about EVERY knife shop. You're saying no shop has EVER overcharged or wanted to charge as much as possible to maximize profit? Are you really telling me this? You literally have no idea what you're talking about and have obviously never run a business.

Furthermore, you again haven't read what I've posted and missed the point. Commerce is built around the fundamental practice of vendors aiming high and customers aiming low. This concept is fairly basic... I'm not sure what is so confusing about it. I'm more than happy to answer any questions you have about how trade and commerce works - ask away!
 
darkdomino said:
First off, who are you to tell anyone what they need or don't need?
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I'm not telling anyone what they need or don't need. My point was that the vast majority of people who would be looking for big sales on knives are those that are "into" knives, and probably already have more knives than they could possibly ever use in their lifetime. Knives are durable goods, not consumables. This is especially true when you consider the materials and construction methods used to make quality knives today. So yeah, I'm confident in my assumption that if you're on Bladeforums and you know enough to complain about black Friday sales, you don't actually need any more knives. Having said that, I'm certainly willing to admit that you may be the exception to that generalization.

darkdomino said:
Second off, the fact that a dealer makes very little money on an item is.. at the end of the day... their problem.

I'm not running a charity over here, and neither are the knife shops. They offer high and the customers go low. You're acting like you don't know how basic commerce works.
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These days, basic commerce includes the ability for a consumer to take a few minutes to comparison shop and find the lowest possible price for most anything. That pushes web stores to offer the lowest possible prices all the time, meaning they're making very little money on any one sale. For them to offer large discounts on top of that would mean they're breaking even or even losing money. So the fact that they're making very little money off any one sale actually is your problem if you're looking for a big sale, because they can't stay in business if they make so little money they can't pay the bills.
 
Ken, you beat me to it! :p

OK, guys, now hear this: FEEDBACK can be a contentious place to voice an opinion, and we need to accept that. But we don't need to accept personal insults, and the tone you use can be taken very badly when you decide you alone are the master of the Truth.

Relax, tell us what you believe, but do not interrogate someone for believing otherwise.
 
Black Friday's only purpose is to reduce stock that has been on the shelves too long. Knife Center has a little higher mark-up than most of my other favorite knife stores, so they can afford to have some sales. The others don't do too much because they are making even less on their sales. Check the mark-up at mom and pop stores. Even Walmart is selling their Kershaw knives for more than most online vendors. I like the 'Special deals" that Knifecenter has year round. GP knives also has good knives on "sale" all year. Knifecenter also seems to have a much greater selection and tends to be one the last online venders to run out of popular models.
 
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