Deloid, I understand your perspective considering your relationship to the participants in this little exchange but you are perhaps judging good people based on an isolated incident without looking at the much larger timeline. As some have pointed out, intent can mean as much as content and past actions can give insight as to ones intent. I can assure you the derailment was with cause and quite intentional.
The folks who are drawing your criticism have the benefit of watching this scene repeated ad nauseum over the years and are reacting as any person with a sense of decency would when they have just simply had enough and expect better behavior from the offender. Despite the appearance from a limited frame of reference they are not the aggressors here, they are good people who have reach their limits, I would like them to know they are appreciated for not enabling ongoing bad behavior by excusing or condoning it.
It is quite simple, if your friend’s antipathy for me makes it impossible for him participate in a respectful or constructive manner he can simply ignore my posts. I cannot recommend this enough due to the serenity I get from ignoring anything that has his name attached to it. Something the good folks with a broader perspective on the matter can testify to my patience with.
Hi Kevin,
I wish you had sent this part privately but while I don't need to do this, I will correct the misconception. I underlined parts of the statement you wrote that create a false impression of my intent and positioning or stated exactly the same thing you wrote.
Note the phrasing of my post:
"this is an example of personality clash, style clash and or bad interpersonal history. None of this belongs on this type of a thread and frankly it shouldn’t be part of any forum. On the other hand, disagreements, right or wrong should be a component to a forum if people want to see growth and provocative ideas that can help a field or individuals to flourish. These two facets that are inherently part of this genre can have similar origins but are quite different."
I am quite aware of the history but my point is that it is better to avoid personal conflict on a forum when it doesn't add value to the group’s progress.
If you find a post offensive or if you don't like an individual your approach is correct (ignore).
It is up to the moderator to determine if a post is personally demeaning and a warning or deletion would be appropriate.
Every forum has personality clashes. Every forum has a threshold for managing these. If a group is small enough, the battle will burn out on its own. A larger group like this needs more control so that it doesn't develop factions or camps based on individual support rather than ideology.
Anyway, just to make it clear, I don't ever belong in any of these camps. I am interested in knowledge, progress, sharing of ideas or even watching a good argument based on the principles of metal working.
Your post, while I doubt it had that intent, was helping create a camp and placed me on one side. I hope this perception is corrected especially since ultimately we want the same thing.
Dean