Fallkniven S1 or H1 for Bushcraft?

A few years ago Cliff Stamp and I swapped blades for evaluation. He sent me his H1 and I sent him my Roselli erapukko. Here are some of my comments from that test: The H1 is smaller than I had expected, but it is still a hand-filling chunk of a knife; it gives confidence just holding it. It has a full tang which extends from the butt as on the Fallkniven F1, so you can pound on it. The blade is 4 mm or .2” thick at the spine, almost twice as thick as the Roselli, and about 4” long. It has tough, 420-J2 slabs wrapped around a VG-10 core. These laminated blades are supposedly even stronger than a non-laminated VG-10 blade. (Fallkniven posts the results of independent tests on VG-10 on its website.) VG-10 is one of my favorite stainless steels; it seems to have more ‘bite’ than ATS-34, for instance. My buddy and I once skinned a black bear, me with my F1 with the older, one-piece VG-10 blade and he with a Cold Steel/Red River Elk Skinner in Carbon V. Gritty black bear hide, or moose for that matter, can take an edge off like sandpaper. To my surprise, the VG-10 held up just as well as the Carbon V, though it took a bit longer on a DMT hone to re-sharpen. The H1 obviously had been put to a good test; there were bits of crud sticking to the sides of the blade and a few minor red spots along the spine. A few swipes with a Scotchbrite pad and some dish soap left the blade looking almost new. The lamination line is clearly evident about 3/16” back from the edge and the blade is perfectly ground (to my eye), compared to the Roselli’s forging and hand grinding. Falkniven notes that the H1 is a specialized blade designed for ‘experts’, whom I take to mean, ‘people who do not need finger guards to keep from gashing themselves’. I’d call it a good all-round knife, a variation of the tried and true puukko, rather than a specialized blade. Like the Roselli, its edge extends right up to the grip, with a small notch before a narrow ricasso. It looks a bit like a CS California drop-point on steroids. The Kraton grip has no guard other than a small lip, but it is well shaped and textured. It feels a little harder than the Kraton on my Master Hunter and SRK, and almost as firm as the Thermorun on the F1. On a draw cut or slice, which is what this blade is mainly designed for, I don’t see the lack of a guard as a problem, even if you’re running the blade forward edge-up to slit the hide of a game animal. If you were to stab it into something hard, you might run your hand onto the blade, in which case you would no longer qualify as an ‘expert’. If you need to drive the H1 into something hard, say, to split the pelvis of a big game animal or a leg bone to get at the marrow, the tang extends a bit beyond the butt for precisely that purpose. If I have any criticism of the H1 grip, it is that it is a bit short if you’re wearing heavy gloves. The H1 came with an open-top swinger sheath of good thick black-dyed leather, fitted with a hard plastic liner. This is a huge improvement over the usual Scandinavian and Finnish sheaths in my experience. The ones that came with my Helle Eggen as well as the Roselli were made of thin, flimsy leather, albeit the Roselli did have a hard plastic liner. I used the original sheaths as patterns to make sturdier ones with substantial welts out of heavier, latigo leather. The H1 sheath, at least, this one, doesn’t grip the blade particularly tightly; you can draw the knife with one hand. There is a lined lanyard hole in the butt so you could tie it down for more security. The H1 came sharp enough to shave with a bit of pressure, but not scary sharp. There were a few tiny chips toward the base of the blade. Ten minutes of work on a DMT red (medium) hone, stroking backwards to maintain the convex edge, followed by the same on an ultra-fine (green) DMT hone and a bit of stopping on a chromium oxide impregnated leather strop brought it to scary sharp. It seemed to sharpen more easily than my F1, possibly because of the softer 420-J2 side panels. It’s not a paring knife, but the thick blade works well in the kitchen preparing vegetables. It tends to pop apart hard veggies like carrots, but will slice softer fruit like tomatoes, no problem. It worked great on dismembering chickens, and the blade is long enough for that most useful survival exercise, scraping peanut butter from the bottom of the jar. It also was handy in the garden, cutting tough, dirty vines and digging into old wood. In short, a handy, all-round knife, not too big to tuck into the back pocket of your jeans, and big enough for about any task for a hand cutting tool. The VG-10 edge lasts and lasts and lasts, and a few licks on a DMT ultra-fine hone bring that scary sharp edge back fast.
 
Thanks for the pics. The H1 ia a beautiful knife in custom guise. It was a hard decision, but I chose to customise an F1, but I went for the H1 in standard form (thermoun handle and VG10) as I thought the handle would be more grippy and comfy during wet and cold use, especially considering it does not have a guard. Yes the F1 is hard to beat. It just does so many things so well, while H1 has allot of character, yet is subtely very robust knife :thumbup:
 
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...The H1 is smaller than I had expected, but it is still a hand-filling chunk of a knife; it gives confidence just holding it. It has a full tang which extends from the butt as on the Fallkniven F1, so you can pound on it...(QUOTE REDUCED)

Thanks for you're analysis on the H1. I especially liked the above part of your post :D
 
I love my F1 in 3G.

Based on the other, somewhat negative thread the other day I felt the urge to start reading around some more for my own edification,
and ended up getting 2 more Fallknivens; an S1, and an A1! :rolleyes:

I think they are very cool blades, built tough, up to the task, and a great value for the money.

I can't wait to get them out there this summer. :thumbup:
 
I really wanted the F1 in 3G I thought it was ultimate, as I did the TK2. But my U4 (my first Fallky) chipped carving wet cane and badly at that. I guessed 3G was more of a slicer and built for intricate work. IMHO 3G seems to not like shocks- I think its too brittle for tasks like battoning and some bushcraft tasks like trimming baranches and battoning. I also saw that most of Fallkniven's heavy duty knifes are VG10. I just did'nt trust 3G enough to by a knife that expensive and have it chip out on me.

Now this NOT a criticism and I have not owned an F! 3G. I am just going on my experiences with the U4, my research of the steels and some reviews I have read. How do you find the F1 3G?

I reckon the A1 is awesome for its intended tasks. Best heavy duty size compromise knife there is and probably good for killing crocadiles! Good choice and congradualtions! I cant wait till my H1 and F1 get here. At the moments I have F2 (Highly recommended-excellent utility, fishing and boning knife with a 2.5mm thick, and perfect 4.3" long blade), U4 and U2 in my Fallky collection. I nearly went the A1 this time :D

Since using Fallkys I find picking up a $2 K-Mart knife in the kitchen a dangerous and aterrible experience! My F2 has never been used and I've had it 6 months. I have to stop babying my Fallkys, like Peter Hjortberger of Fallkniven AB said, 'Fallkniven knifes were made to be used'.
 
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IHow do you find the F1 3G?

I don't beat on the F1 3G, but I don't baby it either.
I carry it everywhere, and it is an outstanding cutter.
I do employ a variety of knives for different tasks and I feel this one definitely has its place in my collection.
I count it as a high quality, small fixed blade, with excellent sharpness and edge retention,
suitable for a broad variety of cutting tasks, and that is exactly how it has served me.

Maybe this summer I will try to abuse it a bit more and see how it holds up...
 
I don't beat on the F1 3G, but I don't baby it either.
I carry it everywhere, and it is an outstanding cutter.
I do employ a variety of knives for different tasks and I feel this one definitely has its place in my collection.
I count it as a high quality, small fixed blade, with excellent sharpness and edge retention,
suitable for a broad variety of cutting tasks, and that is exactly how it has served me.

Maybe this summer I will try to abuse it a bit more and see how it holds up...

Good to hear. 3G is obviously a cutting king!
From what I have read if you push it it will chip, but you will have to hone the chips out. As you know no easy task with 3G. Look after it, not a cheap knife.
An ultimate steel in an ultimate blade IMO!

I have heard allot of stories about cheaper and other knifes being great at edge retention, chip resistance and slicing ability. I dont know if its the brand , or just a fluke knife- e.g. highly and properly heat treated, who knows. Although I am sold on the prestige and character of Fallky's, I never close my ears to learning about other possibilities... At the moment I am looking at Puukko's;

http://www.kellamknives.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_33_36_43&products_id=7
 
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