Fallkniven U2 question

mete said:
VG-10/3G/VG-10 .... VG-10 is by itself an excellent steel and is used in other Fallkniven knives.
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yea but see that is just it

i tought so too initially, but they are unclear about that
on teir site it just says: " Lam. SGPS"

not 3G

and their on their 3G knive pages(ie http://www.fallkniven.com/tk/us-tk3-4.htm) they clearly say that it is SGPS with VG2 on the sides

if they'd use VG10 on the U2, i"d think they'd proudly put it on the U2 info page and not hide it, so i dont think it is VG10 or VG2, so ..what then?
 
nephildevil said:
yea but see that is just it

i tought so too initially, but they are unclear about that
on teir site it just says: " Lam. SGPS"

not 3G

and their on their 3G knive pages(ie http://www.fallkniven.com/tk/us-tk3-4.htm) they clearly say that it is SGPS with VG2 on the sides

if they'd use VG10 on the U2, i"d think they'd proudly put it on the U2 info page and not hide it, so i dont think it is VG10 or VG2, so ..what then?
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super gold powder steel :D i think it somehow like zdp 189, or in the same class anyway...super hard
 
mongomondo said:
On the Fallkniven site it has this in the description



Does this mean you never have to lubricate this knife?
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They mean that additional oil or fats will attract dust and dirt and serve more to wear down parts rather than to lubricate them. I've had similar instructions from other folder manufacturers, including Mission and Boker. Many times, yes, they mean you do not have to lube the knife because it uses self-lubricating bearings.

Still, the best advice I can give is to disassemble your folder every once in a while, thoroughly clean the parts, including any bearings, and then very sparingly use a very high quality lubricating oil to finger-lube those contact areas. I've had a few Bokers, in particular, that work much better this way than if I had simply left them to their "self-lubricating" processes.
 
There is confusion in the names . There seems to be two names for the steel 3G and SGPS.
The Fallkniven S-1 is VG-10 core with 420 outside.
The Fallkniven U2 is 3G core with VG-10 outside . How do I know ? I just took my Sebenza [S30V] and scratched the blades .It was easy to scratch the S-1 420 ,much more difficult to scratch the VG-10 of the U2.From using the U2 and comparing it to the TK-1 I know they are the same 3G steel core!! That certainly is a super steel !.
 
3G is VG2-SGPS-VG2, hence 3G.

SGPS is the always the core and not 3G, which is the name that Fallkniven uses to describe the metals in the lamination.
 
airyq said:
3G is VG2-SGPS-VG2, hence 3G.

SGPS is the always the core and not 3G, which is the name that Fallkniven uses to describe the metals in the lamination.
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It is a little confusing. I'm going to contact Fallkniven and ask them to explain. But, I think you're exactly right. I've seen in other places that the U2 is not 3G, but a different laminate with the same core steel.
 
indeed, and it won't be VG2 as then it would be called 3G

so it ha to be something different, and if they are kinda proud of 3G and openly say it is VG2 on the sides

...then i logically derive from that, that the U2 has a cheaper steel on the sides then the 3G knives
 
nephildevil said:
indeed, and it won't be VG2 as then it would be called 3G

so it ha to be something different, and if they are kinda proud of 3G and openly say it is VG2 on the sides

...then i logically derive from that, that the U2 has a cheaper steel on the sides then the 3G knives
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as long as its sgps at its core...who cares about th sides ?
the F1 has 420j2, which i wouldnt call expensive .....so ....
 
true, i just ordered a U2 and i am just being curious

doesnt really matter as the core is what interests me anyway

and i'm happy with my F1 aswell
 
actually on what basis would they chose the outer steel anyway?

i guess stainless is nice, low hardness is best

what other characteristics?
 
i guess mainly for the increased flexibility of the whole blade, the core being very hard...
anyway i doubt it makes that much of a difference in small blades, at least in what concerns flexibility
 
what other characteristics?
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Lamination is done at the steel foundry, not the knife company. They make both steels and match them up by charachteristics like price, similar/compatible heat treats, etc. Basicly they know what works and what doesn't. Joe
 
ah i see, its not just a matter of choosing a steel to sandwich another

they have to be kinda compatible or the whole thing falls apart so to speak
 
Peter Hjortberger wrote back and confirmed that the U2 is SGPS core with 420J2 sides. He said the U2 may get G3 in the future, and that G3 may become the standard for all their knives. For one thing, it's more scratch resistant. However, they will not drop their VG10 laminates. For now, though, he notes that the laminate for the U2 is working very well.
 
nephildevil said:
ah, oke thanks for asking and confirming :)

darn, maybe i should have waited until the U2 turned G3 :p
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Keep in mind that he said they may change to G3 for that blade. They're very happy with the results they're currently getting with its laminate steel.
 
i think the main reason the U2 sells so well, is its price .

so if they move to G3 ánd it becomes more expensive, it wont sell so good.

then ppl might be thinking of jumping imediately to a TK3 or something for a folder, and decide the whole fällkniven folder range is too expensive alltogeter and not buy anything
 
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