Favorite "Entry Level" Manufacturer

Tommi, thanks. I'm sorry I missed the big sale at Chai. I'll keep my eye out from now on. I have only 1 KP which I got from Knifecenter [much cheaper than Kellam, but still expensive] A superb knife.
I'd rather have 1 of those than 3 "entry level" knives. But maybe that's because, like any addict, I need more and better...knives
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Ontario and Ka Bar then Cold Steel.

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Many good thoughts here - I like the SAK's the Gerbers, Bucks, CRKT's and Spyderco's too -but these are not all in the same league - much less playing field - for $20.00 +/- SAK and Gerber give you a low price and a product that will hold up in my experience.. up a level in price is CRKT and Buck - then comes Spyderco which is where I stop! I know my elevator doesn't go to the top floor -but I need the dollars for other things too !

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I will have to go with Spyderco also, since I seem to add more of them to my collection than any other lately.
CRKT has great quality vs. price, but I wish they would upgrade the steel in some of their custom designed models such as the M-16 series.
 
Chris Reeve. You may as well enter at the top, thus avoiding a plethora of
mediocre knives. Walt

No Walt, Spyderco knives are hardly "mediocre" in any sense of the word. Some people are not wowed by hype and a bloated price tag.

JK


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With the addition of the new custom collaborations and the impressive transition from hand made to factory, I have to say CRK&T is at the top of the folder list. As far as fixed blades, I am a fan of the Ka-Bar. As it has been pointed out through out this thread, there is definetly something for everyones tastes at the "low end". Now the next step is to raise the quality a little higher on the "low end" knives and still keep them "low end". It's a never ending challenge for the factories and makers.

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Now the next step is to raise the quality a little higher on the "low end"
knives and still keep them "low end". It's a never ending challenge for the factories
and makers.

Absolutely, Dirk, and a challenge from which we, the consumers benefit. I would like to add that not only is quality the only standpoint from which to "raise the bar", so to speak, but innovation is a great way to get ahead in the knife industry, especially for knives in this price range. This is where CRKT is excelling, with these nifty new models. Do you have a favorite?

JK
 
Frosts or Erickson knives from Mora Sweden.

Real working knives from Scandinavia!
 
Cold Steel, KaBar, Buck, Camillus, Case, CRKT, Spyderco, Ontario, Gerber, Outdoor Edge, Livesay - not necessarily in that order.

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Originally posted by Walt Welch:
Chris Reeve. You may as well enter at the top, thus avoiding a plethora of mediocre knives. Walt


Beauty (and value) is in the eye of the beholder. My eyes say that I don't need a butt-ugly $325 knife to cut twine, or cardboard, or what-have-you. Besides, I have other hobbies that need my $$. Just me.

What is considered "entry-level"? Some people are recommending knives which a newbie, or even a non-knife knut (say a hunter/fisherman) would consider out of their price range.

In addition, we should be talking specific models; not particular manufacturers. Many manufacturers have both entry-level (e.g. Zytel handles/AUS-6), and high-end (e.g. G-10/ATS-34) knives. Even CRKT makes the upscale S-2.

For price/quality, it's pretty hard to beat CRKT's C/KFF. Smooooooth opening, good lock-up, safety (better than the Gerber Covert), Pat Crawford ergos, and it's available in two sizes, and two blade configs. It also retails in the $30 to 40 range for the large size.
 
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I think that Spyderco and Cold Steel (Voyagers) are going to loose out if they don't start catching up with CRKT.

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Wow, CRKT is really getting to be popular among forumites! Can't disagree with that...I have a large and small CRKT KFF and they both rock. Great bang for the buck, awesome finish, etc. I don't mind the AUS-6 since this knife is not meant to do huge cutting tasks and such. However, I DO mind the bead blast finish on all their knives, which create rust pretty quickly. They really have to do something about that, maybe provide an option to sell the knife without this finish.

However, if you're looking for real quality at a low price(e.g. best blade materials, consistency in outstanding production and finish, razor-sharp blades out of the box every time, etc.) I'd have to say Spyderco is the King of the Hill. They have a knife for every purpose, and consistently try out different quality steels on all price-range knives. They also rarely use cheaper steels in their knives, and even then they feel like quality steels the way they handle cutting tasks.

To me, the Spyderco Native exemplifies the ultimate "under $50" knife. I still CANNOT understand how Spyderco dared to sell this knife for so cheap a price (found it for $43 with different internet retailers). It is designed to handle multiple cutting chores and is excellent for thrusting also. And, of course, never forget the fact that it has a CPM 440V blade, which is considered as good or even superior to the famed ATS-34 steel.

Also look at the Spyderco Calypso Jr. Lightweight. This knife cuts like a demon with its VG-10 blade, and is even cheaper! Although I highly respect CRKT for its innovative designs and collaborations, the fact is that their lower quality and cheaper materials cannot even begin to rival Spyderco.

-Flood
 
Originally posted by Tommi:
Depends where you live.
Exactly. Apart from the really cheap Swedish "Mora" knives (both brands are much better than the price indicates -- huge volumes sold), I could mention for example Helle, Brusletto and EKA. (Not that the price level necessarily is a great step under the next step up to for example Fällkniven, so I don't really think one should be so fixated on makers and instead think about models.) And Opinels work well too.



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Spyderco, Victorinox, and Buck (in no particular order).

The Delica/Endura, Pioneer/Soldier, and 110 are classics and have stood the test of time because they provide the absolute best results in the ongoing cost/value/performance battle in the lower priced arena.

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dan
 
Definitely CRKT. They offer very well made custom collaboration pieces with top-notch craftsmanship quality. I wish they were around back when I was getting into knives. Ah well, its never too late, I've quite a few of their models in my collection. As it was said before, CRKT offers the most bang for the buck

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im kinda new to all this,even though i have been here a while now.but i have to say crkt,spyderco,andkershaw are all awesome.looking at an endura the other day,tree chopping sharp!i know what to buy next...
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CRK&T is showing some promise. But, SPYDERCO RULES....Native, Calypso Jr,Delica, Endura, Dragonfly to name but a few.

Paul
 
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