Favorite flipper under 500$

^ A picture would be nice. :)




^ "Head and shoulder's above anything else from ZT" < With all due respect, your statement gave me one of those, "WTH" moments. o_O

I purchased a new Wayfarer 247 a short while back, from Russian Knives. As much as I wanted to like this knife; in my opinion, it felt considerably inferior next the 2 ZT 0392 L.E. flipper's I own.

The fit and finish between the 2 models are very comparable, along with the choice of blade steel's, and they were all in the same price range...but as far as I was concerned, the quality comparisons stopped right there. In the hand (where it matter's the most), the Wayfarer felt kind of like a toy, compared to my 0392's. :(

The Wayfarer was the fastest "catch and release" knife I've purchased to date; just not my cup of tea.

My favorite flipper under $500: Zero Tolerance 0392 L.E.. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
I have looked at the Zero Tolerance 0392 L.E too. They are definitely under consideration. The biggest problem with them is that i cant find them anywhere. I'm looking for a stonewashed handle and satin blade none of this mallninja stuff. Pretty much everywhere they are out of stock. Do you have a reliable supplier that i may not know about?
 
Do you have a reliable supplier that i may not know about?
The LE stands for Limited Edition...they were only available through a handful of dealers, and they sold out quickly. They show up sporadically on the secondary market; but prices are usually quite high.
(I haven't paid much attention to the more recent releases, as they didn't appeal to me... but the only one that fits your description was the first one)
 
The LE stands for Limited Edition...they were only available through a handful of dealers, and they sold out quickly. They show up sporadically on the secondary market; but prices are usually quite high.
yup, thats why i cant seem to find em.:D
 
Our OP gave us a price range with features desired and asked for suggestions for a new acquisition. My reading of these few pages of posts has given rise to a few thoughts regarding likes and dislikes, personal preference for makers, and how value is viewed with relation to various price-points.

Kelama's points about personal preference are well-taken, though he seems both adamant and somewhat defensive of his own. What's really cool about the hobby at this point in time is the great variety of availability in features and styles within various price ranges. We have flippers, thumb studs, Spydie holes; frame, liner, AXIS locks; G10, Micarta, Ti; and all manner and types of blade steels, types, and grinds to choose from. Truly something for everyone.

I really like the picture threads here at BF as one can see all manner of knives displayed. There's lots to like, some that seem kinda meh to me, and a few that really wrinkle up my nose. I'd just as soon keep my own counsel regarding the latter two as their posters certainly enjoy and are proud of their knives and don't need to know that their choices leave me cold at best.

As to price range, most all of us here seem willing to spend all of our OP's budget (welcome to BF, Owen!). When thinking of various brands/makers mentioned it strikes me that the "production" and "mid-tech" knives fall into fairly distinct categories. I happen to have quite a few in the production category--about two dozen BMs, a few less Spydies, not-so-many ZTs, and several others. I also have budget knives. I have quite a few mid-techs as well, including CRKs, Hinderers, serial Shiros (over-priced, though still mid-techs), a Les George, and an Olamic. Some of what separates these two categories in my mind is the more thoughtful design of not only the knife but the production process; a more careful and detailed execution of that process; and an ample amount of hand assembly and fitting of the finished product.

The production knives fall roughly into the $75-250 range while the mid-techs start around $400 new, though most of mine came off the Exchange and started around $300. I don't like my production models any less than my mid-techs, I just have different expectations for their level of F&F, action, and materials. I don't expect that my M390 production knife will be "better" than an S30V or S30VN mid-tech just because it has "better" blade steel. I also don't expect that buying an LE model of a production knife will raise it to the level of a mid-tech simply because of "better" materials, anodizing, or special finishing, regardless of its increased price point.

I would rather spend my $500 on an inlayed CRK than any Blue Class Benchmade, for example. I think this may have been at the heart of Hackenslash Hackenslash 's comment regarding the F&F of the 247 over any ZT--not a disdain of one brand in the face of another, but his feeling that one is just a very different thing than the other. I'm sure that KELAMA KELAMA 's ZT LE's are fine knives and I wouldn't disparage them--at that price-point, though, I'm happy with my Olamic 247 which doesn't feel anything like a toy to me.
 
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ZT 0920. You can buy two.

That's my recommendation as well. I don't really dig flippers, framelocks, Ti, or recurve blades, but I LOVE the 0920. It is the only flipper I own, and I cannot put it down. ZT does flippers right, and this blade is sexy. For me, what really put it over the top outside of the amazing flipping action are the ergos (excellent) and the milling. The milling looks great, adds some traction, and makes the knife very light for its size.
 
1. Any Ferrum Forge model–for example the Septer is going for $499 these days.
2. The Liong Mah GSD manufactured by Reate is an awesome flipper in S35VN with a bolster lock.
3. Any Custom Knife Factory flipper is a great choice, I have the Peace Duke and have been looking at the SSE.
4. Although it's above your price range, the Shirogorov Ultra-Lite Neon is easier to come by than their other models and at $550 it's not too much more than what you're looking to spend.
5. Millit has the Max Evolution, a less expensive version and should be releasing the Torrent this week
 
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^ A picture would be nice. :)




^ "Head and shoulder's above anything else from ZT" < With all due respect, your statement gave me one of those, "WTH" moments. o_O
Yes Sir, sometimes I am prone to making strong statements. In hindsight I'd say I consider "head and shoulders" a bit of an exaggeration. I have two of the 0392s also and consider them a very, very nice knife. At the price of an 0392 when new, and for less than an 0392 in the secondary market, you can have a 247 and I'd still consider it a better knife. But that's just for me. The ZTs tend to be a little heavy and less ergonomic for me. They're not safe queens but they never manage to kick other knives (including my 247 out of my pocket). I do appreciate you calling me out for the hyperbole though.

I also think the F/F on the 0392 is a little better than a production run ZT, but that goes hand in hand with it being a LE.

P.S. : I also make strong statements when posting with a beer in my hand :thumbsup:

P.P.S: I like my women with curves but I'm totally down with the way Ford is building trucks these days!
 
Our OP gave us a price range with features desired and asked for suggestions for a new acquisition. My reading of these few pages of posts has given rise to a few thoughts regarding likes and dislikes, personal preference for makers, and how value is viewed with relation to various price-points.

Kelama's points about personal preference are well-taken, though he seems both adamant and somewhat defensive of his own. What's really cool about the hobby at this point in time is the great variety of availability in features and styles within various price ranges. We have flippers, thumb studs, Spydie holes; frame, liner, AXIS locks; G10, Micarta, Ti; and all manner and types of blade steels, types, and grinds to choose from. Truly something for everyone.

I really like the picture threads here at BF as one can see all manner of knives displayed. There's lots to like, some that seem kinda meh to me, and a few that really wrinkle up my nose. I'd just as soon keep my own counsel regarding the latter two as their posters certainly enjoy and are proud of their knives and don't need to know that their choices leave me cold at best.

As to price range, most all of us here seem willing to spend all of our OP's budget (welcome to BF, Owen!). When thinking of various brands/makers mentioned it strikes me that the "production" and "mid-tech" knives fall into fairly distinct categories. I happen to have quite a few in the production category--about two dozen BMs, a few less Spydies, not-so-many ZTs, and several others. I also have budget knives. I have quite a few mid-techs as well, including CRKs, Hinderers, serial Shiros (over-priced, though still mid-techs), a Les George, and an Olamic. Some of what separates these two categories in my mind is the more thoughtful design of not only the knife but the production process; a more careful and detailed execution of that process; and an ample amount of hand assembly and fitting of the finished product.

The production knives fall roughly into the $75-250 range while the mid-techs start around $400 new, though most of mine came off the Exchange and started around $300. I don't like my production models any less than my mid-techs, I just have different expectations for their level of F&F, action, and materials. I don't expect that my M390 production knife will be "better" than an S30V or S30VN mid-tech just because it has "better" blade steel. I also don't expect that buying an LE model of a production knife will raise it to the level of a mid-tech simply because of "better" materials, anodizing, or special finishing, regardless of its increased price point.

I would rather spend my $500 on an inlayed CRK than any Blue Class Benchmade, for example. I think this may have been at the heart of Hackenslash Hackenslash 's comment regarding the F&F of the 247 over any ZT--not a disdain of one brand in the face of another, but his feeling that one is just a very different thing than the other. I'm sure that KELAMA KELAMA 's ZT LE's are fine knives and I wouldn't disparage them--at that price-point, though, I'm happy with my Olamic 247 which doesn't feel anything like a toy to me.
Very well thought out post. Thanks.:thumbsup:
 
^ A picture would be nice. :)

As you wish...

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2. The Liong Mah GSD manufactured by Reate is an awesome flipper in S35VN with a bolster lock.
3. Any Custom Knife Factory flipper is a great choice, I have the Peace Duke and have been looking at the SSE.
4. Although it's above your price range, the Shirogorov Ultra-Lite Neon is easier to come by than their other models and at $550 it's not too much more than what you're looking to spend.
OP specified American-made or I would've mentioned that GSD myself. GREAT knife. :)
 
I have looked at the Zero Tolerance 0392 L.E too. They are definitely under consideration. The biggest problem with them is that i cant find them anywhere. I'm looking for a stonewashed handle and satin blade none of this mallninja stuff. Pretty much everywhere they are out of stock. Do you have a reliable supplier that i may not know about?

^ This was just listed:
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/fs-limited-edition-zt-0392purblkwc-ckf-gavko-sf.1498337/

There was a LNIB listed last week, for $325. If you can find a configuration you like, and your patient, this is a good place to find one.

I'll be back in a little bit...I'm going to get a nice cold Arrogant Bastard ale. ;)
 
^ This was just listed:
http://www.bladeforums.com/threads/fs-limited-edition-zt-0392purblkwc-ckf-gavko-sf.1498337/

There was a LNIB listed last week, for $325. If you can find a configuration you like, and your patient, this is a good place to find one.

I'll be back in a little bit...I'm going to get a nice cold Arrogant Bastard ale. ;)
Thanks for the link. That one is a little to mall ninja for me. I'm looking for a stonewashed/satin blade. I'll keep my eyes out
 
American Made? I am biased seeing as it is the only American made flipper I own in that price buttt my Hinderer MP-1 flips real well. For being on washers, it may be one of the better flippers (on washers) I have handled. Now, of course other options are also reliable so everyone's experience will vary. Hinderer just tends to get a worse rep for flippers than it deserves, I have found.
 
I am going to have to say the iconic ZT 0303 is mine, well it's actually a tie. The ZT 0200 and the original 0560 are some of my all time favorites. I didn't any complaints about any of the knives I mentioned, they have all been solid and worked well for me through the years. I carried my original 0560 for about 2 years every day and used it for all kinds of stuff.
 
Lots of really good choices here. One of the best bangs for your buck has to be the ZT 052/0562CF:



The ZT0095 doesn't get nearly the praise it deserves - there are a few available variations:





Toward the top of the price envelope is Todd Begg Steelcraft Bodega - the full-size is an incredible value and an amazing knife:

 
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