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Favourite FRN Spyderco?
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Currently my Calypso Jr lt... 2nd is my SE Native(CE wth 1/2" of tip)... thinking of getting a PE Cricket to go with my Tufram... soon ordering a Meerkat, that might be 3rd...
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My favorite FRN Spydie is the Rescue Jr.
The motto for this knife should be "It's not just for cutting seatbelts anymore". The reason I like it so much is that the straight, serrated edge easily rips through stuff that is hard to cut with a plain edge. And, the blunt tip keeps me from puncturing whatever is in the vacinity of the stuff being cut. It is not my most frequently used knife, but it carries easily and gets the job done. Best way to sum it up is that it complements other knives well.
The motto for this knife should be "It's not just for cutting seatbelts anymore". The reason I like it so much is that the straight, serrated edge easily rips through stuff that is hard to cut with a plain edge. And, the blunt tip keeps me from puncturing whatever is in the vacinity of the stuff being cut. It is not my most frequently used knife, but it carries easily and gets the job done. Best way to sum it up is that it complements other knives well.
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I wouldn't buy, much less own and use, an FRN-handled Spyderco (or other such make), even though I have almost 20 Spydies around the place. I've grown very attached to my fingers and want to keep it that way.
The one exception is a Matriarch that serves as a bad example when compared to a Civilian.
The one exception is a Matriarch that serves as a bad example when compared to a Civilian.
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Blade Santa Cruz,
Have you ever had one fail? I have beaten my Delica to death and tried to get it to fail with no luck.
Have you ever had one fail? I have beaten my Delica to death and tried to get it to fail with no luck.
Allen E. Treat
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Whole damn "home" forum ( and some forumite(s) here 
) know mine :
C29SBK "Cricket" ( Spyderedge ; NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT )
AET (ATE on the "home" forum)
Oh yeah, what Homer Simpson was quoted as sayin' a few post(s) back
) know mine :C29SBK "Cricket"
( Spyderedge ; NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT )AET (ATE on the "home" forum
)Oh yeah, what Homer Simpson was quoted as sayin' a few post(s) back
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I have to agree with the Zombie man here. Some people are expecting way too much out of their small folders and need to invest in a set of STANLEY tools!
The only FRN Spydie I would question for safety are the old Q "cut out" knives...but I still like it.
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Far too many people have no idea of what thier FRN spydies can do.
I bought my FRN PE Delica in '99. I used and abused it for a while, gave it to my friend this fall to help bring him over to our side(I got him to carry a 4" I bought him last year, and now he also carries the spydie).
I've used it for far more than I should have. Shingles, Tar paper, Carpet, Drywall, Rubber hose... I used it working on our shed last summer('01), and besides working on shingles and tarpaper, it was dropped from the roof a few times(thankfuly closed everytime) landing on either cement or gravel. It was used to put up the mesanine in our garage this summer, and my father snapped some of the tip off(but I fixed that).
I haven't had any question about the lock and handle holding.
I've only bought 13 spydies, own 8 still(5 were gifts), and I've only bought 5 without FRN handles: SS 'Fly, Tufram Cricket, G-10 Millie, G-10 Wegner jr, ??(SS?, Alum?) Spydiecard.
EDIT: forgot about my Spydiecard
I bought my FRN PE Delica in '99. I used and abused it for a while, gave it to my friend this fall to help bring him over to our side(I got him to carry a 4" I bought him last year, and now he also carries the spydie).
I've used it for far more than I should have. Shingles, Tar paper, Carpet, Drywall, Rubber hose... I used it working on our shed last summer('01), and besides working on shingles and tarpaper, it was dropped from the roof a few times(thankfuly closed everytime) landing on either cement or gravel. It was used to put up the mesanine in our garage this summer, and my father snapped some of the tip off(but I fixed that).
I haven't had any question about the lock and handle holding.
I've only bought 13 spydies, own 8 still(5 were gifts), and I've only bought 5 without FRN handles: SS 'Fly, Tufram Cricket, G-10 Millie, G-10 Wegner jr, ??(SS?, Alum?) Spydiecard.
EDIT: forgot about my Spydiecard
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Not really a FRN fan, but I would pick my Endura. The Native Gin-1 was nice also, but I must not have liked it too much, because I traded it.
I recently gave our local Police officer a new Spyderco Endura FRN, and he comments on how much he likes it every time I see him. (He buys LOTS of ammo, and gear from me, so I had to do something nice for him)
I recently gave our local Police officer a new Spyderco Endura FRN, and he comments on how much he likes it every time I see him. (He buys LOTS of ammo, and gear from me, so I had to do something nice for him)
Spyderco has lots of good FRN handled knives. Despite the superstition, there have been no reported catostrophic failures.
Per the Matriarch vs. Civilian, I heartily disagree. The Matriarch is a distinct improvement over the Civilian.
- Civilian is over 4 inches and thus instantly illegal in most juristrictions.
- Civililan is tip down, Matriarch is tip up. Most, but not all, people feel tip up is a tactical advantage.
- Matriarch is much lighter than the Civilian. It is more likely to be carried, thus be there when needed.
- Matriarch is overall smaller than the Civilian, thus it is more likely to be carried.
- Matriarch is left and right hand friendly.
- FRN handle on the Matriarch has a much more agressive traction than the Civilian.
- Matriarch is cheaper, thus easier to ditch when needed. Less pain in the wallet when the tip breaks on someone,s bones or buttons.
I am not the only one on this forum to believe that the Matriarch is actually a better carry option for most people than the Civilian. By the way, that's why it was made.
Per the Matriarch vs. Civilian, I heartily disagree. The Matriarch is a distinct improvement over the Civilian.
- Civilian is over 4 inches and thus instantly illegal in most juristrictions.
- Civililan is tip down, Matriarch is tip up. Most, but not all, people feel tip up is a tactical advantage.
- Matriarch is much lighter than the Civilian. It is more likely to be carried, thus be there when needed.
- Matriarch is overall smaller than the Civilian, thus it is more likely to be carried.
- Matriarch is left and right hand friendly.
- FRN handle on the Matriarch has a much more agressive traction than the Civilian.
- Matriarch is cheaper, thus easier to ditch when needed. Less pain in the wallet when the tip breaks on someone,s bones or buttons.
I am not the only one on this forum to believe that the Matriarch is actually a better carry option for most people than the Civilian. By the way, that's why it was made.
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Hmmm why stop here when we can take it so much further. Let's examine a knife made from 100% cardboard and judge it by the same criteria:
- Civilian is over 4 inches and thus instantly illegal in most juristrictions. Well, the Matriarch at 3 5/8 in is also illegal in many if not most jurisdictions. The cardboard knive (CK), however, could be easily trimmed to whatever size was desired. Score 1 to CK
- Civililan is tip down, Matriarch is tip up. Most, but not all, people feel tip up is a tactical advantage. Actually many prefer tip down, perhaps most. However some Civvies can be adjusted either way. A CK could easily be positioned in either configuration. Tie 1 - Civvie and CK.
- Matriarch is much lighter than the Civilian. It is more likely to be carried, thus be there when needed. The Civvie may be an ounce or two haeavier (the price of adequate construction, I guess) but is certainly light, flat and easy to carry. I doubt it has any significant impact on frequence of carry. But the CK is, by far, the lightest. Score 1 - CK
- Matriarch is overall smaller than the Civilian, thus it is more likely to be carried. This seems redundant when the previous points are considered. Except for the hair-splitting difference of where an over 4 in blade is illegal while a 3 5/8 in blade is legal, there appears to be little difference. Score 1 - CK, a particularly easy winner here.
- Matriarch is left and right hand friendly. Huh? Need more information as to why this should be claimed.
- FRN handle on the Matriarch has a much more agressive traction than the Civilian. The G10 handle on the Civvie feels much better to me and is stronger and stiffer as well. It's also far less likely to fail when I need it, but this isn't one of the criteria we need to stay with. The cardboard knife gives you a choice of many different tractions and has to win this category as well.
- Matriarch is cheaper, thus easier to ditch when needed. Less pain in the wallet when the tip breaks on someone,s bones or buttons. Obviously, CK wins by a mile.
Yes folks, if you pick the right criteria, why you can make a real POS come out on top. A good lesson for us all.
- Civilian is over 4 inches and thus instantly illegal in most juristrictions. Well, the Matriarch at 3 5/8 in is also illegal in many if not most jurisdictions. The cardboard knive (CK), however, could be easily trimmed to whatever size was desired. Score 1 to CK
- Civililan is tip down, Matriarch is tip up. Most, but not all, people feel tip up is a tactical advantage. Actually many prefer tip down, perhaps most. However some Civvies can be adjusted either way. A CK could easily be positioned in either configuration. Tie 1 - Civvie and CK.
- Matriarch is much lighter than the Civilian. It is more likely to be carried, thus be there when needed. The Civvie may be an ounce or two haeavier (the price of adequate construction, I guess) but is certainly light, flat and easy to carry. I doubt it has any significant impact on frequence of carry. But the CK is, by far, the lightest. Score 1 - CK
- Matriarch is overall smaller than the Civilian, thus it is more likely to be carried. This seems redundant when the previous points are considered. Except for the hair-splitting difference of where an over 4 in blade is illegal while a 3 5/8 in blade is legal, there appears to be little difference. Score 1 - CK, a particularly easy winner here.
- Matriarch is left and right hand friendly. Huh? Need more information as to why this should be claimed.
- FRN handle on the Matriarch has a much more agressive traction than the Civilian. The G10 handle on the Civvie feels much better to me and is stronger and stiffer as well. It's also far less likely to fail when I need it, but this isn't one of the criteria we need to stay with. The cardboard knife gives you a choice of many different tractions and has to win this category as well.
- Matriarch is cheaper, thus easier to ditch when needed. Less pain in the wallet when the tip breaks on someone,s bones or buttons. Obviously, CK wins by a mile.
Yes folks, if you pick the right criteria, why you can make a real POS come out on top. A good lesson for us all.
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BSC:
Let's be scientific here. You've stated in other posts that you've found certain varieties of FRN to be chemically unpredictable, and that, empirically, you've seen a disturbingly high rate of broken FRN "cable hangers" in aerospace applications. Is that a fair summary of your objection?
The problem with your statements in this thread is that there doesn't seem to be a corresponding high failure rate in knife applications. Do you think it's possible that there are differences between the materials you worked with in the lab and the materials used in knife handles? Or maybe that the lab results don't necessarily reflect real-world applications? Or maybe that the parts used in SDI systems might be experiencing variables that are totally out of line with the conditions experienced in real-world applications?
It's been verified to your satisfaction that FRN breaks down unpredictably in the lab and in aerospace hardware, but the evidence seems to contradict an extension of those misgivings into the area of FRN knife handles.
What do you think?
Let's be scientific here. You've stated in other posts that you've found certain varieties of FRN to be chemically unpredictable, and that, empirically, you've seen a disturbingly high rate of broken FRN "cable hangers" in aerospace applications. Is that a fair summary of your objection?
The problem with your statements in this thread is that there doesn't seem to be a corresponding high failure rate in knife applications. Do you think it's possible that there are differences between the materials you worked with in the lab and the materials used in knife handles? Or maybe that the lab results don't necessarily reflect real-world applications? Or maybe that the parts used in SDI systems might be experiencing variables that are totally out of line with the conditions experienced in real-world applications?
It's been verified to your satisfaction that FRN breaks down unpredictably in the lab and in aerospace hardware, but the evidence seems to contradict an extension of those misgivings into the area of FRN knife handles.
What do you think?