Fed up......

The whole idea is not to (gun analogy) turn a bolt action .223 into a Styr-AUG, but to take the BEST of both the old and the new.

Point taken STeven. You should be able to get a slipjoint in the materials you like.

What is particularly interesting is that on the one hand, in your opinion, Case should not have used brass liners on that damascus knife and used a "modern" material, while, on the other hand, others are taking Case to task for not making enough CV models, i.e., using too much "modern" materials.

De gustibus, I guess. I'm sure a Case is never going to make everybody happy.
 
marcinek;4864865.......in your opinion said:
De gustibus[/I], I guess. I'm sure a Case is never going to make everybody happy.

IF I had the quandry of wanting a particular setup in CV with a particular handle material...can buy both at wholesale, and have the skills and tools to move the blades around, to Frankenstein(Garssonize) it, as it were.

This is not an option with the Damascus models, because SS frames are not part of the regular rotation...if that makes any sense.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Thank-you very much Thomason. Much appreciated. Here is one for the traditional side. Brass liners and stag seem to have held up OK for 120-140 years.
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Wow, s-k, can we get a side view of that old beauty?
 
I don't have a side view with blades closed but the tangs/top of blades (see first photo)are flush with the liners. There are no little pointy bits sticking out to snag in one pockets.

p.s. you're most welcome jacknife.
 
IF I had the quandry of wanting a particular setup in CV with a particular handle material...can buy both at wholesale, and have the skills and tools to move the blades around, to Frankenstein(Garssonize) it, as it were.

This is not an option with the Damascus models, because SS frames are not part of the regular rotation...if that makes any sense.

I hope you don't think I'm disagreeing with you in any way, STeven.

I might have a different opinion of what the "ideal" slipjoint is made of...and we all do! Which, I think, is why we hang around here.

I think you have brought up a particularly interesting example by focusing on Case. I like Case. One's in my pocket right now. But...on one hand they have the widest selection, and on the other hand, they may be the least likely to satify someone (like all of us folksy, yet discriminating, fellas here) with specific tastes and preferences.
 
I hope you don't think I'm disagreeing with you in any way, STeven.

Case.......on one hand they have the widest selection, and on the other hand, they may be the least likely to satify someone (like all of us folksy, yet discriminating, fellas here) with specific tastes and preferences.

Not at all, Marcinek.

I'm saying in this particular case, that the "case" of the knife, if it was SS, from Case would be the BEST case.:D

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Well, I like brass on my slippies and traditional folding knives. It's probably not the ideal liner material, but I'm willing to sacrifice some performance for aesthetical enjoyment.

I can appreciate purely functional knives, like some Spyderco models or the plastic handled Scandies, where it's all about getting the job done without worries about the look. However, on my slippies I preffer carbon steel, brass and natural handle materials, I like a knife that will "age" as I use it.

With that said, I think knife companies don't usually listen to us knife knuts because we are a very small part of their market. This changes from company to company, of course. Some of the "specialty" companies that cater to more demanding knife users and collectors might pay more attention to us, but big companies that sell mainly to average Joes probably won't.

I've seen countless threads on other forums about how people would pay more money for a Victorinox knife with S30V blades and micarta or G-10 handles. Maybe you and me would be interested in such a product, but 90% of Victorinox's customers will just consider it a pricier SAK and keep buying the regular ones.

Maybe something similar happens with Case.
 
The one in my pocket right now is a Buck 301 with stainless integral bolsters/liners/frame. It has replaced my old 301 with brass liners. Even so, I go to great lengths to restock my stainless rifles in walnut. An oil finish on the outside and urethane for the inletting does the job. Nicks and scratches in an oil finish are easily remedied. A damaged walnut oil finish is still preferable to those plastic things.

I like tradition too, and shoot mainly SxS doubles so my favorite is a stainless SKB (in walnut of course). It's the only one I've ever seen. If anyone is curious I'll post a photo.:) Regards, ss.
 
Modern companies can do slipjoints in steel and get a knife at $100 MSRP. Lone Wolf does it with their city knife. It's a Loveless project, has custom designed blade steel, stainless steel liners with integral bolsters, micarta slabs and it's a slipjoint with indents for half stops. Made in Italy. Can be found for as low as $75.

I believe Bob Loveless has one or two Lone Wolf lockbacks, made in italy, with stainless steel liners and bolsters for around $200.
 
Well, I like brass on my slippies and traditional folding knives. It's probably not the ideal liner material, but I'm willing to sacrifice some performance for aesthetical enjoyment. /QUOTE]

I'm not so sure you are sacrificing any performance with brass. In fact I think brass has some very good qualities.
 
Blue Sky- here's a photo. I've been shooting it since about 1975. I tested machined surfaces on the barrels, receiver, and internal parts with cold blue to verify they are all stainless. SKB was imported by Ithaca at the time. An acquaintance said he recalled some obscure reference to a Saltwater Special that was special ordered by a group of gunners on the Chesapeake, but there was no photo. That may be plausible since it has 2-3/4" 12 ga 28" M&F barrels at 7 lbs-0 oz. The development of Bismuth shot was a real event for me:D.

The 301's are shown to see the liners, one brass one integral stainless.:) Regards, ss.
 
My problem with NS is the patina, which is green, unless it is one of those high end "mystery" nickel silvers that does not patina, which I have heard about, but never seen.

STeven,
While, in general, I agree with you about SS for bolsters/liners, I own a couple of custom slipjoints by Jeff Claiborne that have nickel silver, integral bolsters & liners. One, a half-whittler, was purchased at the 2005 Blade Show and is my regular "at home" EDC during shorts weather. While Roanoke isn't exactly tropical, it does get a mite humid here during the summer. Not a speck of green to be found.

Of course, I really have to agree with Don. Why aren't custom slipmakers using titanium? A two-blade trapper with SS liners & bolsters is a heavy lump in one's pocket.
 
SS, I have an old Ithaca double, very much like yours, except blue. Nice gun.

dsvirsky, most folks are very surprised at how light weight the titanium lined folders are.
 
Blue Sky- here's a photo.

Thanks, I've always liked doubles and you've got a nice one there.:thumbup: I have an old plain-jane Savage 311, wish I could it get out more.

Back on topic: I like brass liners and nickel silver just fine for traditional slip joint patterns and I don't think stainless offers enough of an advantage overall to worry about it too much.
 
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