#35 with case and certificate. Been carried. Personally I can't tell. Bought it a year ago on BF. Never carried or used it. If you're interested I'll send original posting. I'm focused on simple fixed blades but won't discount anything. I'm impulsive. I'm finding that 3v is working well for my needs, especially for larger fixed blades. Multiples are fine. I'll undo any deal if you're unsatisfied. Email me if you're interested.