fighting Ninja Sword

Danzz said:
Pause the video and advance it frame by frame right as he breaks the tip off, then watch his facial expression change as he realizes what he's done and what's going to happen. Definitely not an act.
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Er... yes, I'm sure he was startled. But he is purported to have acted hurt more than it deserved (likely a tiny breaking of the skin, very little blood) and he appeared later on. Again, selective editing. He appeared soon afterwards and was perfectly fine. I don't see what your issue is. Re-read my post.
 
senoBDEC said:
Er... yes, I'm sure he was startled. But he is purported to have acted hurt more than it deserved (likely a tiny breaking of the skin, very little blood) and he appeared later on. Again, selective editing. He appeared soon afterwards and was perfectly fine. I don't see what your issue is. Re-read my post.
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Sorry 'bout that, my mistake. I thought you were suggesting that they set up the whole thing with the sword breaking, to be funny or something.
 
Danzz said:
Sorry 'bout that, my mistake. I thought you were suggesting that they set up the whole thing with the sword breaking, to be funny or something.
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Much like they set up that guy falling off the PVC ladder and dislocating his arm :D. They really should fix these crappy products. ;)

And it's all good, just didn't want any misunderstandings.
 
I wonder how their sword sales were effected by that show. :D Hopefully it did not inspire more people to buy them.
 
I think it's great that this started out with Omega Doom predictably asking where he could get a real live Ninja sword, and now moved into a discussion about some idiot stabbing himself.

Poetic, really.
 
Watchful said:
I think it's great that this started out with Omega Doom predictably asking where he could get a real live Ninja sword, and now moved into a discussion about some idiot stabbing himself.

Poetic, really.
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Omnious, rather. :D.
 
Just saw the Chisa... but only stock photos... anyone have a picture of it being held to give a better idea of it's length?

I'm about 6'1... I'm not overly concerned about it being too small... but I'm also not looking for something that would be closer to a long tanto than a Katana either.
 
pathfinder74 said:
Just saw the Chisa... but only stock photos... anyone have a picture of it being held to give a better idea of it's length?

I'm about 6'1... I'm not overly concerned about it being too small... but I'm also not looking for something that would be closer to a long tanto than a Katana either.
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One thing I've done at times is take an old bokuto/bokken and cut it to the lengths (handle and blade) listed of specific swords I'm interested in. This is better than a picture of a guy holding it since you get a feel for the length and people comein different sized. A dowel should also work and would be much cheaper. You can even make a model out of carboard and tape.
 
Benjamin Liu said:
One thing I've done at times is take an old bokuto/bokken and cut it to the lengths (handle and blade) listed of specific swords I'm interested in. This is better than a picture of a guy holding it since you get a feel for the length and people comein different sized. A dowel should also work and would be much cheaper. You can even make a model out of carboard and tape.
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Damn... that's a good idear. Thanks.
 
To add my two cents, my friend and teacher has spent a good amount of time in Japan with, as he calls it, his "family", and during our discussions the topic of katana (to simplify) vs. ninjato has come up several times. His observation, and one that I share, is that the ninjato was not simply a battle weapon, it was a tool. The resources that many ninja "clans", or what have you, had access to were very limited, so the tools reflected that. The straight blade was easier to forge, and could be repaired or sharpened on the fly, if you will, easier than a curved blade. Also, the steels and forging equipment were more limited for ninja than they were for a person who could use the resources of mainstream smiths and artisans.
Please don't think that because the sword has been popularized, that there isn't truth behind the design; the straight ninjato could be wedged or struck into a wall to aid climbing, or propped in the scabbard against a wall as a step. The sword was also designed smaller than the armlength of the person wielding it when possible, so that it could be concealed more readily and also to to facilitate close quarter strikes and grapples with the blade.
When looking into the idea of using a ninjato style blade, keep in mind that it should be useful in as many ways as possible in a survival setting, i.e. cutting wood, supporting weight in/out of scabbard, digging etc. not just for CQ fighting.

My teacher also mentioned that there is no substitute for a well built sword specifically for fighting, if the circumstances allow. The ninja or hill fighter would never pass up the chance to obtain a top quality folded or otherwise superior sword when he could locate one, perhaps from a fallen enemy.
As was said above, Paul Chen's Practical Plus Ninja-to is a good sword for many of these catagories, but I would consider any shorter, curved blade that was as well built. I would also take the time to hand make a sturdier sheath/scabbard.
 
To add to the above posts,
the Ninjato was a vastly inferior weapon to the Katana and a Ninja would rather samurai's katana if he got the chance. The Ninjato was cheap to produce.

BTW, just so you know how much katanas can cost... A properly made katana will cost you the price of a new medium sized car. And they come blunt.

You get it properly sharpened, which takes a quarter to half a years on a waterstone done by a master sharpener. And as you can imagine, this sort of labour is not cheap.

Everytime the katana touches air, you have to oil it or you will ruin the finish.

That is a katana.

The difference b/w japanese swords and western swords is because of this. Western warriors usually carried a sword and a shield, whereas the Japanese sword had to block as well as slash - if it broke - you were dead. That is why they are made so strong.

Sidenote: Paul Chen isn't even japanese.
 
Dangerman said:
The straight blade was easier to forge

I disagree with you on this point. Ask any knife or sword maker about this and they will tell you that the hardest part of making a blade is keeping it straight. Before setting in the edge bevel you need to do a reverse curve so that when you hammer on the edge side of the steel it makes the blade straight again.

Making a curved blade is much easier as the blade will naturally curve as you set the edge bevel thinner then the spine when you are hammering the hot metal.
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You bumped a thread that's a year and a half old. Dangerman has not posted since March of 2006.

Just thought I'd point that out.
 
Well, Q's no...:barf:...Ninja...

...b u t :rolleyes:...

I saw the "Ontario Knives Brush Cutter" at Cabelas and Mr. Jones jumped on my back and he's c h e w i n g on my neck.

So I started to research...read this entire thread...and I'd like to get a sword, but not a piece of Qrap.

Please tell me your opinion of the quality of these four (4) swords and the reputation of the seller...

http://www.hanweishop.com/proddetail.php?prod=SH6000XPF

http://www.hanweishop.com/proddetail.php?prod=SH2118

http://www.hanweishop.com/proddetail.php?prod=SH1070&cat=460

I know these are at the low-end of the seller's line, but it's all I could afford to spend and not take the chance that Mrs. Q will cut my nuts off with it. :(
 
Ok, I did some research. It appears that hanweishop.com is the US selling arm for Paul Chen. As for the quality of the blades...you get what you pay for, eh.
 
The short, straight, sqaure guard sword was invented by Stephen Hayes, a pupil of Massaki Hatsumi. Real practitioners of the art before it became "ninjutsu." It is a real ninja sword, but not traditional or historically accurate....
 
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