"Filofiel Cuchilleria"

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bomber258

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"Filofiel Cuchilleria" = is a company in spain that took my USPMO and destroyed it after I requested they return it for me to redeem.

They tore it up and then after FIVE requests by me to return it - they threw it out.

If this is a business that is ongoing - I can only hope they f'ing choke on their product and wish I had the time & money to fly there to smacktard those asshats in person.
 
You saved your carbonless copy of the money order, didn't you? You can take that to the post office and redeem it.
 
I can try to get the money back - but that will take a month or 2 or 3.

Details are that I asked [by 'e' mail ] them if I could pay with USPMO and they did not say no,so that meant that it was a go.

Upon their recieveing it they told me it was a no go at their bank,I then asked them to send it back so as to bring the whole unit to the P.O..

They kept me waiting for a reply for a few days and then told me that the M.O. was no good [ again ].

I then asked them AGAIN to send it back [ crappy 90 cents postage ] and they didnt answer me for a few MORE days.

I then finally got an answer that they had "broken it" and would send a pic.

They finally sent me a picture of a torn M.O. that I guessed was mine - I asked AGAIN to have it sent back.

A few more days later they informed me it was thrown out - AFTER I REPEATELY aske for its return.

Now I got a nasty gram in spanish that I had to try to get 'splained' with Google Translator.

Basically telling me to go to hell - they SUCK and I hope they suffer for their assinine attutude.

So much for the spanish 'polite' business people - asshats !!!.
 
Details are that I asked [by 'e' mail ] them if I could pay with USPMO and they did not say no,so that meant that it was a go.
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That's an interesting approach to negotiation.

Hmm ... if I send you my old made-in-Japan Buck 110 clone from the 1960s by priority mail, will you remit a money order for $1,000,000?
 
Cougar Allen said:
That's an interesting approach to negotiation.

Hmm ... if I send you my old made-in-Japan Buck 110 clone from the 1960s by priority mail, will you remit a money order for $1,000,000?
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Well, you didn't say no, so that is a go. I'll be watching the mail for your money order ... :)

You better not go back on the deal, or I will expose you in TGB&U! :mad:
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Did you send a USPS domestic money order or a USPS international money order?
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I had no idea that there was in fact an international MO.

But to answer the prior wiseass,no they did not say they would not except a USPMO and not being familiar with spain I was guessing it was a 'normal' country and they understood " United States Postal Money Order ".

Since our currency is excepted around the world I was at fault so f'ing hang me.

But their RUDE and fk'ed up attitude was not good business acumen .

Ergo this rant - and I daresay if this was you it might be about the same.

They could have mailed the f'ing thing back to be F'ing POLITE like in MANNERS.

Bet you were even raised with them ?.:mad:
 
So, first you incorrectly assumed a USPS domestic MO was good anywhere, when in fact it is only good in the USA. Which meant that, even if Spain were one of the few countries which accepts USPS International MO's, which it is not, you would have sent them what amounted to a worthless piece of paper. You then assumed the employees/owners of a company in Spain would have sufficient English language skills to understand that your question required an anwser and further assumed it safe to take the absence of a "NO" as a "YES". And, in spite of the fact that your money can be recovered, albeit with a slight delay, you choose to put all the blame in their corner. :rolleyes:

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Last time I checked, there were no United States Postal Service offices in Europe so indeed a money order is no good here. Also, and for quite a while now, the European economy has not been based on the exchange of US Dollars, nylon socks or Lucky Strike cigarettes. :D

But it's good if you are able to get your money back on the MO so all is not lost.
 
Bomber, A quick review of the facts as presented thus far, cause me to conclude that the spanish knife dealer is the harmed party here. They even sent you a photo of the torn up MO as proof they had not and would not be able to negotiate it to their benefit.

My question is now, have you paid them by some other means??? If not then that makes you tend to look like the bad guy here.

Paul
 
It should cost them money, no matter how little, because you don't know what you're doing? I wouldn't have been as accomodating as they were.

bomber258 said:
I had no idea that there was in fact an international MO.

But to answer the prior wiseass,no they did not say they would not except a USPMO and not being familiar with spain I was guessing it was a 'normal' country and they understood " United States Postal Money Order ".

Since our currency is excepted around the world I was at fault so f'ing hang me.

But their RUDE and fk'ed up attitude was not good business acumen .

Ergo this rant - and I daresay if this was you it might be about the same.

They could have mailed the f'ing thing back to be F'ing POLITE like in MANNERS.

Bet you were even raised with them ?.:mad:
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Your posts reflect poorly on you.

But their RUDE and fk'ed up attitude
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Sadly you're the only one who has displayed said attitude.

But to answer the prior wiseass,no
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I can infer from what you've posted that you were less than polite and as a result you got what you deserved.


So you'll just have to take the time and file for a refund of the Money Order. You are not out anything. And just possibly you could take the time to reflect on your behavior?

Ideally you'll contact Filofiel Cuchilleria and appologize for your mistake.


Mitch
 
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braillediver said:
Your posts reflect poorly on you.


Sadly you're the only one who has displayed said attitude.


I can infer from what you've posted that you were less than polite and as a result you got what you deserved.


So you'll just have to take the time and file for a refund of the Money Order. You are not out anything. And just possibly you could take the time to reflect on your behavior?

Ideally you'll contact Filofiel Cuchilleria and appologize for your mistake.


Mitch
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When pigs fly.

I was not rude nor ignorant and they DID reply in english.

And sorry to burst all your bubbles,but their INDICATION was that a MO was good.

THEY are the dealer and THEY might have made it clear that it was not a regular MO since I was the BUYER and did not deal internationally prior to this.

But please take their side and enjoy it - I asked VERY nicely to have them mail back the MO so it would go a bit smoother.

If that is asking for too much then gee golly wilikers,sorry Beaver.

A business man or woman understands that some customers are not into their BUSINESS as much as they are.

But guess I wont buy from them and I do not allow a BUSINESS to act in such an ignorant manner as they did.

They were rude and I am pissed at such manners - or lack thereof.

If you dont get it - WGAF.

I am sure others sell the knife I wanted and I am sure they lost a large sale due to their asshat manners - that makes me feel better.
 
Jim malone said:
Money orders and cheques have disappeared in Europe. Everything is computerized and people use plastic debit cards or to a lesser degree cash. I only have one 20€ note in my wallet but never pay cash. Companies don't pay in cash anymore they will deposit your pay only on a bankaccount. Apart from the 20€ there is no other cash in our house because every store has a electronic payterminal and there a ATM's strewn across our town.
There are bankcheques and international moneyorders but this is used between banks and for large amounts of cash and very expensive.
I never even enter a physical bank anymore. Most of the banking in Europe is done thrue the internet (homebanking).
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Your reply was spot on ,and IF known to me prior I would not have attempted to do transaction with them.

But that was not the case and I only wish they had allowed me to use a CC as that is a secure payment plan imnsho.

But still - all I really expected from them was a polite "yes,here is your money order back" - I have done a bit of business in the past 62 years and I am not liable to put up with rudeness.
 
  1. "Spain" and "Spanish" tend to be capitalized.
  2. I think you meant "accept" not "except".
  3. Your use of the term "normal country" is in the stupefying range.

If your communication with them was consistent with this post, that may "splain" some of the issues.
After going to their website and using a translator ( http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.filofiel.com%2Ftienda%2Fconditions.php scroll down to "payment"), I see nothing in their communication to lead me to believe I should assume anything about payment.
Seems like the OP holds a lot of responsibility for things going south here.
all da best,
rats...
 
I think they threw your cheque away.
It is useless in Europe and cheques in Europe were only withdrawn from your bankaccount when cashed in, IIRC.
The only thing you can do is write them again, and file a refund claim for your money order.
I don't see a real malicious intent on their part, just some confusion.
I hope you get your money back, i can't see why not because it was never cashed in. Or does a money order work differently?
 
ratstuph said:
  1. "Spain" and "Spanish" tend to be capitalized.
  2. I think you meant "accept" not "except".
  3. Your use of the term "normal country" is in the stupefying range.

If your communication with them was consistent with this post, that may "splain" some of the issues.
After going to their website and using a translator ( http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.filofiel.com%2Ftienda%2Fconditions.php scroll down to "payment"), I see nothing in their communication to lead me to believe I should assume anything about payment.
Seems like the OP holds a lot of responsibility for things going south here.
all da best,
rats...
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Thanks for being 'so' helpful.

I did not know to use the translator and they communicated with me through 'E' mail that was in ENGLISH - so just maybe they made the error's ?.

I did not use the capital letters as it is my way of saying fk u to those that pissed me off.

I was polite and treat others as I hope to be treated - unless or until I am treated otherwise.

ALL that I requested was that they mail back a piece of paper that they told me was of no use to them.Instead they destroyed it ?

If that is "impolite" or rude then please tell me that all rules of manners are now no longer pertinent and I will speak to them and others as those here have responded to my quest to warn others about a problem that I encountered.

I cannot fathom the intent of manners that allow one to act in such manner - guess I was raised with manners different to those encountered now.
 
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