Finishing up the HHH blade blank

The two are not mutually exclusive, creativity and skill. One can have a vast amount of skill and little or no creativity. Such as someone who copies another's work and believes they are being creative.
A maker can have a great deal of creativity without having the requisite skill level to produce superior work.
The difference; skills can be learned over time by most people with the ambition to do so. Creativity on the other hand cannot be learned, even if there is a great desire to be creative there is no guarantee that you will be.
When I find someone with the inquisitiveness to try something different, even if to me it appears odd or out of sorts, I tend to applaud the search instead of criticizing the outcome.

I think this view is instilled in me from years of teaching people to dream and reach for the unattainable.

Fred

My view can be tried by some damned ugly knives that are seen on the forums. :)
 
Well, Greg, if that's what you think you are doing, it just isn't so. By the way what's with this handle being higher than the blade? You've got that right if that's what you were going for. If you look at your pictures it shows that to be true. Frank
 
The criticism isn't too much for me, Frank. I just wanted you to understand there's a cost associated with how you choose to interact in these matters. I still welcome all comments, and always will. That doesn't mean all will be received in the same manner. When comments are offered in a disrespectful manner, they generate disrespect in return. And not just from the one at whom the comments are aimed. It's a fact often overlooked by keyboard warriors. And the sad thing is that we often don't really know what the true cost of our words is. We are well advised by those who tell us to choose our words wisely.

This is the Internet, and we are each building the online profile of who we are with each post. And the record of our behavior hangs around for a very long time.

- Greg
 
I see what Frank is saying as an honest opinion on some things that are easily fixed with an hour or 2 or more work. Considering Franks work, it could be an oppertunity to ask what to do different or how to bring things to a better level of fit and finish.
 
I do take the criticism as a chance to see room for improvement. It is, in fact, one of the reasons I have already made the changes that were made.
 
Both Greg and Frank are nice guys and I really enjoy what they contribute here. But Frank Niro is a master knifemaker and he does not give a critic to be mean, like many other masters they give a critic to wake a person up so they pay attention. Yes the words can burn, but it is that pain that has staying power to drive budding knifemakers in the right direction.

Some knifemakers actually would glading pay to have Frank Niro or Nick Wheeler looking over their shoulder telling them what needs to be improved on.

Accurate criticism by such makers is part of what an apprentice has to go through on their way to become the master.
 
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I should have just stayed out of this in the first place.

Carry on. :)
 
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tryppyr said:
Perhaps I can help you understand what's going on, Nick, and just maybe make you more effective at "teaching" and communicating.

You may recall some time back you created a thread about proper sanding techniques. I watched the videos and learned from them and adjusted my techniques accordingly. I realize I still don't do things EXACTLY the way you do, but improvements were made. That really helped, and I credited you for that help on several occasions, much to your chagrin on at least one such occasion.

Subsequent attempts to "educate" me have not been so successful. Consider the results here. The methods you and Frank are using are ineffective because they tend to trigger a defensive or negative reaction. In my case, I don't get terribly emotive, but I do tend to discount information that is provided in an inappropriate manner. It's a mental process akin to separating the chaff from the wheat. If, in that process, some wheat is lost, that's the price of using the "raw and blunt" approach.

So now you (and Frank) know that this approach doesn't work. What are you going to do about it? If your answer is "more of the same", then you're doing the same thing you assert that I am doing. The difference is, however, as "atrocious" as my methods are, they do produce results. What I expect is that before much longer you and Frank will declare that I (and by extension those like me) aren't worth the effort, and go back to doing what you do best. That's your defensive position. And I'll go on doing what I do until I have a reason and the means to do otherwise.

I'm not completely unresponsive to education.

- Greg
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this reminds me

"you don't always get what you want, you get what you need"


.....holycrapIthinkIjustchanneldhisgooeyness :eek:
 
In the interest of a peaceful community, let's just drop that line of the discussion. That post has been removed.
 
Closing out this project.

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That is a beautiful piece of wood. I like the contact between the could look of the Damascus and the warmth of that wood.
 
You finished it out nicely. Do you have a sheath on the way?

Fred
 
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