First Blood Jimmy Lile knife

First off, as to the "hollow handles break easier" I had an extended discussion with Mr. Lile in the late 1980's during a lull in a knife show. I put the question to him directly. His reply was that he had designed a special 3- step process to attach the blade to the handle, which he would not detail except to say that it included it being "sweated and pinned" along with other processes that ensured it would not break. The real secret, he said, was proper heat treatment of the blade. He said he would be very surprised if someone could get a Rambo or Sly II to break off near the handle before the knife or the person gave way.

I might also add that he told me that, in his mind, 7" was the longest blade for a useful knife. Everything longer than that was just for show and not very useful. He told me in his gentle drawl that "If you showed up in my elk hunting camp wearing a ten inch bowie knife we would laugh you right out of camp."

Having said that, I like big knives and own a Rambo The Mission that hangs on my wall. A good compromise for someone looking to avoid the UC crap but get something resembling a Lile is the Martin MCE series which runs about $450 depending on the bells and whistles you get.

I own the Sly II "copy" It is far from the equal of the Lile knives, being very roughly done. Putting it next to a Lile reveals what an artist Lile was. The Martin is longer than the Sly II with a thicker blade. The sawteeth are, indeed split but not to the extent that the Lile's are: the gap is extremely thin and does not extend to the end of the top row of sawteeth. The Lile split teeth were designed to channel wood chips during a sawing action (necessary because the teeth were not offset); the Martin split is too narrow to accomplish this, although they look like they could rip the thin metal skin of an aircraft (the original reason Randall put teeth on a knife).

The sawteeth are also a little odd-looking. It appears they are made by drilling holes into the blade and then using a band saw to cut out the teeth. The result is far less pleasing - and deeper - than the Lile teeth. Overall, it lacks the graceful lines of the original, particularly where the teeth approach the clip point and in the design of the buttcap. Unlike the Lile, the tang extends about two inches into the "hollow" handle. When the overly large butt cap is screwed into the knife, the "useful" space in the handle is less than two inches.

To top it off, the Martins don't make a proper sheath for the knife, they just add wider spacers to the sheath for the Rambo-sized version. So you get this gigantic sheath for a relatively slim knife. The sheath is actually bigger and thicker than the one that comes with Rambo The Mission. All in all, though, it beats paying $2,000 for a Sly II and it looks like it can take a beating.
 
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It's plain to see, that once you can't afford an original - the only option left is to buy the official licenced copy and be happy.
However as forewarned by many here - even though these are sharpened knives; they aren't about to save the free world anyday soon.
If you're on a tight budget buy, do try the well known Spanish survival knives from Aitor. Heck, even a dull as ex-Soviet AK bayonet is more reliable than those Rambo replicas.
 
a knife from movie one made by lile will cost $5000 and the same for movie 2 but be careful his wife still had knives made by his employees for years you can tell the difference if there is a dot abouve the i it is an after death knife the lile will have no dot if made before he passed.
 
I realize it will have no impact on the value of post-death Sly IIs and Rambos, but Lile told me in our conversation that he made only the original serial numbered knives. All the production versions were made by his staff, but he personally inspected each knife before it left the shop. I have it on good third party knowledge that the same people continued to make the "Dot" Lile survival knives and Mr. Lile's wife inspected these. Bottom line, the "Dot" Lile non-serial numbered knives are made by the same people and are of the same quality as the pre-death knives.
 
If you want two top makers with STRONG knives: Wolf Borger Germany and Tanazacq France.Very good steel and excellent fixation of blade.Price would be 700 to 1000$ and delivery times:years.
 
Bobby Branton sold a Sly II just before christmas for $1900 In the sale forums.

There is an article in the mar. 2007 blade The first 13 were special They had 14 saw teeth, #1-6 were bought by Stalone, marked movie knife and all were destroyed via abuse during the filming. Allegedly they are in pieces in a bag somewhere. #7-13 are according to the article worth what ever the market will bear. #14-100 have 12 saw teeth and are worth $17,000 to $26,000 each. The remaining serial numbered #101-800 are worth $1,700 to $3,000

I have a "Rambo The Mission" which has no serial number and a nickel blade it is in the black sheath with sharpener, and is stamped LILE with no dot it has a 9" nickel blade and 14 teeth, where does this model come into the equation ?
 
I handled an original Lile First Blood in a knife shop after seeing the movie. It was a much better knife than the United. It was made from Heavy Steel -- More like a Buckmaster than United's replicas -- even heavier than a Buckmaster. It was as impressive as it's $700 price tag. I wish I'd had the funds at the time. But then with a knife that expensive you wouldn't want to use the thing, even as a letter opener. As some have said, now they go for double that and more! If you accidently tip your Buckmaster you can just regrind a point on it. But if you really had to count on a knife for your survival, unless you're fighting off bears, you'd do better with a Navy Mk III or a Pilot's K-Bar. The saws are more functional, and if your survival kit has to fit in a knife handle you probably won't survive for long. Use a Band-Aid box.
 
Bobby Branton sold a Sly II just before christmas for $1900 In the sale forums.

There is an article in the mar. 2007 blade The first 13 were special They had 14 saw teeth, #1-6 were bought by Stalone, marked movie knife and all were destroyed via abuse during the filming. Allegedly they are in pieces in a bag somewhere. #7-13 are according to the article worth what ever the market will bear. #14-100 have 12 saw teeth and are worth $17,000 to $26,000 each. The remaining serial numbered #101-800 are worth $1,700 to $3,000
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hi from italy guys
a guy offered me the 2 knives..
but i want to know what im buyng..and i need your help

here u have some pics that this man sent me now
this is for "first blood"






and this is for "THe mission"











ok ...what about this knives?
date of production? price? quotation?

seller asked me 2600 euro,so 3500$..i know quotation in italy are different ..but i need some info.
thanks guys
ciao
andy
 
guys
the first pics i post is not the first blood right?
it should be a miny sly II.
what about it?
andy
 
hi

the first one is a standard sly 2 9" blade (not first blood)
the second is a standard rambo 2 mission bowie,they look in pretty good shape,ive had a few of these,i would say $3000-3500 usd is a good price for them both.
 
hi yea

$3500 usd is in my opinion a good price for both lile knives.
the jack crain ls1 and mcs predator are a better survival movie knife in my opinion.:thumbup:
 
the knives from the movie Predator 1987

give me your email and i will send you some pics,i am unable to post pics here for some reason!
 
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