First slip joint...liners or linerless?

Not for sure but I think AG made the linerless a popular knife?
Don't really know who came up with the make?

I've done several linerless knives and they are a great knife for edc.
Something that I think helps that I get as many orders for them? Is that they are a light weight easy carry custom knife, that is a little cheaper to buy?
I like them a lot - but I also like the ones with liners a lot also.......:rolleyes::D:thumbup:
 
I have both types from a couple of well known slipjoint makers. The linerless versions are not quite as smooth as those with liners, IMO.
 
I love a well made linerless, but on your first I think I would go with liners.
But if you want the lightest possible that will still be tough enough for most any task go with a linerless.
The main thing is for you to get what you want. Don't worry if one is more traditional than the other, or anyting else other than which one you would want in your pocket the most.
 
I remember Mike Skellern's design for the little SL-1 that Klotzli made was in linerless cf.

Linerlessness isn't that new. Nontron, Opinel for example make pretty trad knives. The whole point is structural. Organic materials like bone and wood can't support the pinning, and definitely can't support the pivot. I reckon if Scagel had some G10, he'd have gone commando liner-wise :)
 
A modern without a liner is okay with me. I don't want a traditional without liners, factory or custom. I don't particularly like steel or metal handles either and the handles provide the needed rigidity (linerless).
 
one thing I like about custom slipjoints (though, I've never owned or handled one, just looked at pictures on this forum :)), is that they often have integral bolsters, I think that there is something cool about that, which would tempt me towards liners if I were ever to commission a custom.
 
Hi Quattro98 .. I get a bit fussy of back locks. I like them a lot, bu there is often too much play in them for me .. even the Fallkniven TK3 had too much movement in it ... mind you, that said, I have a Queen Mountain Man that flops about like a landed fish, and I still love it :)

How is the lock on that Russell ... it is a good looking knife

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The only traditional pattern knife I have with linerless construction is one of the AG Russell 3" lock backs in carbon fiber.
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Hi Quattro98 .. I get a bit fussy of back locks. I like them a lot, bu there is often too much play in them for me .. even the Fallkniven TK3 had too much movement in it ... mind you, that said, I have a Queen Mountain Man that flops about like a landed fish, and I still love it :)

How is the lock on that Russell ... it is a good looking knife

Just saw your reply. The lock is solid up & down. I've never noticed while in use, but I can get a tiny bit of movement side to side. The knife is put together with screws, including the pivot, so it probably could be adjusted out, but like I said, I've never noticed it while in use.
 
I designed and Bill Davis made the first linerless knives that I knew of in 1972 and in 1975 I had Hen abd Rooster make a few others.
 
Off topic, but I always stop and pay close attention when AG posts. Thanks for being a part of the forum!
 
I designed and Bill Davis made the first linerless knives that I knew of in 1972 and in 1975 I had Hen abd Rooster make a few others.
Cool to know! I'm drooling over the pen knives and little lockbacks on your site.


Off topic, but I always stop and pay close attention when AG posts. Thanks for being a part of the forum!
I couldnt agree more. I even like to see your posts Derrick. :D
 
I, personally, don't consider Carbon Fiber or Linerless to be TRADITIONAL. Just my own personal opinion.
I think I fall in that category myself. Nothing wrong with carbon fiber or other modern synthetics, but I feel "traditional" has a real meaning and to me that means liners and stag, bone, or wood covers. I'll save the synthetics for my Spydercos. :)
 
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