Fishin1635 online store ? And Varenik* - Ebay flippers

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KnifeandEasy said:
So you’re willing to buy with intent to resell knives off eBay, but we’re to believe you don’t have that mindset when buying here?

Sir, you just said you don’t know whether you like a knife until it’s in hand. I can understand that, but what, you can’t make up your mind on that one?
Feel free not to answer, not really my business. But, you have got to realize that saying you’ve bought 4 of the exact same knife in roughly a year (one as recently as a couple weeks ago) while having one on an extensive eBay store doesn’t help your argument that you don’t flip knives.
Also, you openly admitted to making “15-20%”, by your estimation, from knives bought on the exchange. I know you understand the concept of flipping, I don’t know how you seem to not understand that you’re doing it. We don’t have to make any conclusions, you are openly admitting it and still claiming no rule breaking.
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Not anywhere near that for most of them, at least for the ones bought here. At least half of them break me even. 3/4 of the other half bring about 10%. Returns like this are simply unsustainable if you're in it for the money. Vast majority of the knives I buy are for myself, overall.
 
Varenik said:
"you’re willing to buy with intent to resell knives off eBay" - look at what I buy off the ebay and, if you can, look at the prices I pay for MOST things - I must be out of my mind to pay those prices and hope to resell them at profit. And if I bought all or most of them to resell my listings would number somewhere between 300-400. And if you think I have all the money in the world to sit on all of them till I turn a profit - WHY would I need to sell on ebay at all ? Think about it. But, yes, if I can buy something on ebay that would sell for more I do. NOT that GEC prices on ebay allow much of that.
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Sir, I don’t care what knives you’re flipping on eBay that are from eBay. The whole point of this thread is to point out that it is reasonable to assume you are flipping knives from BF on eBay where, as you just insinuated, are well above market value compared to everywhere else.
Nobody is saying that you don’t have a personal collection, we aren’t concerned about that either. We care that you have bought knives from BF and taken to eBay for profit. It ruins the whole experience and community of a sub forum when one or two users are grabbing anything “desireable” within quite literally one or two minutes only to end up on eBay.
 
JJ_Colt45 said:
What happened to "you are done explaining yourself" ? You maybe should have stuck with that ... you haven't done yourself any favors.
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You know, if I truly felt guilty of flipping I would just STFU and see how it rides out. The fact that at any point in time less that 5% of those listings on ebay come from here should speak volumes as well as the fact that most knives I've bought here are never listed for sale anywhere.
I guess, yeah, I'll follow thru on that. Hate hypocrites though. Since I don't recall any of the people I bought from complain. Just the righteous community guardians...
 
KnifeandEasy said:
Sir, I don’t care what knives you’re flipping on eBay that are from eBay. The whole point of this thread is to point out that it is reasonable to assume you are flipping knives from BF on eBay where, as you just insinuated, are well above market value compared to everywhere else.
Nobody is saying that you don’t have a personal collection, we aren’t concerned about that either. We care that you have bought knives from BF and taken to eBay for profit. It ruins the whole experience and community of a sub forum when one or two users are grabbing anything “desireable” within quite literally one or two minutes only to end up on eBay.
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I'll stop commenting after this. As promised. You MAY have noticed the percentage of knives bought by me is a tiny fraction of what has been offered here, right ? And, as I said, my intent is not to flip them. Most of those I do list for sale are with me for quite a spell. Some, like Hawthorne Jack, I tried to make myself like for over a month. If you or any other defender of community values here care to buy it at the price I paid for it ($425 if memory serves me right) - why, by all means, make me an offer.
 
JJ_Colt45 said:
Then just above you say "if you felt guilty of flipping" ... so you admit you flip ... but don't feel guilty about it? ... Got it.

Like I said maybe you should have stopped while you could have.
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NOT feeling guilty about flipping does NOT equate to anything resembling intent to flip. There's a difference.
 
Murphjd25 said:
Must be fucking nice to buy all the GECs you can to figure out which ones you like or don’t like. I’d have a lot more GECs I want if it wasn’t for fucking flippers on here with the wrong membership. I’m off to bed, got a whole pig to smoke tomorrow.
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I, sir, worked hard all my life for my money. The fraction of knives I buy from here, compared to what is being offered here, and the tiny fraction of THAT that I end up listing for sale is NOT what prevents the likes of you from owning more knives. If you can't admit it to yourself... well so be it. Not my fault though.
 
JJ_Colt45 said:
You already admitted to flipping more than once ... one which I quoted you ... this is what I meant by you aren't doing yourself any favors.
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If that defines flipping then you're simply not aware of how many flippers actually ARE in this community.
Done.
 
Varenik said:
You know, if I truly felt guilty of flipping I would just STFU and see how it rides out. The fact that at any point in time less that 5% of those listings on ebay come from here should speak volumes as well as the fact that most knives I've bought here are never listed for sale anywhere.
I guess, yeah, I'll follow thru on that. Hate hypocrites though. Since I don't recall any of the people I bought from complain. Just the righteous community guardians...
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Again, you are admitting to taking knives from the exchange to eBay. 5%, 20%, 99% it doesn’t matter. You have taken knives to eBay at marked up prices. One of the 3 I listed previously is marked up from $150 to $222+ship the tc is at $345+ship I don’t know what you gave for that admittedly. The rams foot, I don’t know what you gave for yours here, but iirc they go for ~$130 and you have one listed at $222+ship. While not exactly flipping, you can buy one here, pick the best of the two and flip the other for profit.
I’m not trying to be righteous, I am simply trying to point out how what you are saying you’re doing is flipping. I am obviously a bit worked up over this as the last few months have been very frustrating in terms of collecting.
 
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KnifeandEasy said:
Again, you are admitting to taking knives from the exchange to eBay. 5%, 20%, 99% it doesn’t matter. You have taken knives to eBay at marked up prices. One of the 3 I listed previously is marked up from $150 to $222+ship the tc is at $345+ship I don’t know what you gave for that admittedly. The rams foot, I don’t know what you gave for yours here, but iirc they go for ~$130 and you have one listed at $222+ship. While not exactly flipping, you can buy one here, pick the best of the two and flip the other for profit.
I’m not trying to be righteous, I am simply trying to point out how what you are saying you’re doing is flipping. I am obviously a bit worked up over this as the last few months have been very frustrating in terms of collecting.
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just try to understand one thing - NONE of the knives I buy here are for reselling and what I do end up listing (and vast majority of them never sell for the asking price) is listed with make an offer option and most of the time that allows people to make (and buy, actually, at) an offer that would break me even. 5 or 6 knives from here out of 90 plus that are listed are just not indicative of intent to flip. As they were not intended to either. Yes I own a lot of knives, for my own collection. No, I don't buy the majority of knives here. Just look at the numbers.
 
Varenik said:
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just try to understand one thing - NONE of the knives I buy here are for reselling and what I do end up listing (and vast majority of them never sell for the asking price) is listed with make an offer option and most of the time that allows people to make (and buy, actually, at) an offer that would break me even. 5 or 6 knives from here out of 90 plus that are listed are just not indicative of intent to flip. As they were not intended to either. Yes I own a lot of knives, for my own collection. No, I don't buy the majority of knives here. Just look at the numbers.
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Fair enough, I just find it hard to believe. Do I think you’re a knife enthusiast? Yes, I believe that, it’d be hard to get a GEC in hand and not like it. Do I believe you have a personal collection? Yeah, I completely believe that.
Where I’m hung up, is that you have said you’ve bought knives on eBay specifically for reselling at a profit. Why would I believe that you wouldn’t do the same, but from here. There are even examples currently listed at substantial mark up.
I think I’ve added as much as I can, certainly gotten long winded. So I’ll wish you the best sir, but I don’t know what else I can add.
 
Unfortunately by the way the Exchange rules are currently written, neither @fishin1635 or V Varenik can be made to purchase a Dealer membership, their not selling on Bladeforums... might be time for an edit to the rules.

For the time being, the easiest way to deal with members like this is to put them on "ignore" and or refuse to sell to them... sellers prerogative to sell to whomever they choose.

From my perspective it would seem that the Traditional forum is a tight knit group, it shouldn't be a problem to spread the word about members who's sole purpose on Bladeforums is to stalk the Exchange in order to add stock to their online stores.

V Varenik
I found this post of yours in a Traditional for sale thread amusing considering...
Varenik said:
spread the love ?
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Boru13 said:
Unfortunately by the way the Exchange rules are currently written, neither @fishin1635 or V Varenik can be made to purchase a Dealer membership, their not selling on Bladeforums... might be time for an edit to the rules.

For the time being, the easiest way to deal with members like this is to put them on "ignore" and or refuse to sell to them... sellers prerogative to sell to whomever they choose.

From my perspective it would seem that the Traditional forum is a tight knit group, it shouldn't be a problem to spread the word about members who's sole purpose on Bladeforums is to stalk the Exchange in order to add stock to their online stores.

V Varenik
I found this post of yours in a Traditional for sale thread amusing considering...
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Very unfortunate about the rules, but nothing I can do.

im still waiting to hear from @fishin1635 , just to hear him say that he’s a collector and only sells what he doesn’t like.
 
bbk357 said:
Very unfortunate about the rules
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Going to see what can be done about that.
bbk357 said:
but nothing I can do.
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You've already done something by creating this thread and helping to inform members... very positive effect :thumbsup:

Also, I wasn't aware that @fishin1635 had a link to his store on his profile page until this thread. That link has now been removed as it's a violation of the Exchange rules, another positive effect.
 
Boru13 said:
Going to see what can be done about that.

You've already done something by creating this thread and helping to inform members... very positive effect :thumbsup:

Also, I wasn't aware that @fishin1635 had a link to his store on his profile page until this thread. That link has now been removed as it's a violation of the Exchange rules, another positive effect.
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Thank you sir :thumbsup:
 
New here and wondered why the "reserve the right to sell to whoever I please" showed up all the time in the ads, assumed it was just for folks that were slow paying or backed out a lot, never considered the flippers. The market will bear what it will...but I’m a knife enthusiast and would-be collector here for a too-consuming hobby. Not to make money, I assume I’ll lose money...that’s usually how hobbies work.

I can’t see a reason why any BF member would sell a GEC on the bay without offering it here first unless it’s to make money. The exchange will let you know within a couple of minutes if you’re priced too high (love that). I don’t want to deal with flippers. It’s annoying and something else I have to track now when I decide I don’t love a knife enough to keep it. This is why we can’t have nice things.
 
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Planterz said:
Flippers aren't part of this community. They're vultures that prey upon it.
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I've said enough above.
"Flippers aren't part of this community." - you'd be surprised.
If you call those, that end up selling about 5-10% of what they bought here at 5-10-15% profit, flippers - you're in for a rude awakening.
 
Jsega51 said:
I’m starting every sale ad from now on with “I’ll take it does not guarantee you the knife.”

I wasn’t aware of @fishin1635 but V Varenik was already on my radar since their sole reason for being a member here is to hawk the exchange. Pretty clear to see if you look at their post areas. It’s for this reason that I am now vetting buyers as people who aren’t here just for the sales and if they are, sorry, I’ll sell to someone else.
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I personally would also add in people with blocked profiles so you can't readily see their post history.
 
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