Fixed Blade Find--Can Anybody ID it?

:D

I'm sure it will be fine. I like wood with a lot of grain, seems you can't get more than this one has.

I think I have a fancy sheath somewhere that will fit it and look real nice.

Thanks again.
 
SOLEIL said:
If it is model #0192B01-B then per Joe it is Maple Burl. I have two of these however my blade stamping is "192MSU" on one side and "MASTER SERIES BG42" on the other. The wood looks exactly the same as mine and came with black "191" sheaths. Someone got a great deal on that if it is BG42. Even if it isn't they got a good deal.
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Yes, I thought it was a real good deal.

It looks enough like desert ironwood to make me happy. I guess if it's coming from Wolfjohn it won't be BG-42 because he would have known that even if they forgot to stamp it.

:)
 
Then again......who knows?

Here's a post from 2008...

Well I purchased one. directly thru a Buck dealer. It was advertised as BG-42 madeinthe custom shop, and when it arrived, not only was it not stamped BG-42, but it didn't have the Custom Shop markings either. I called, and spoke with Joe. Since it came in the box
and had all the codes, Joe looked it up in their system and found the build info for
the run. Turns out it was assembled for a customer on a sprint run using leftover material to keep the cost down. But the build info in the computer did officially indicate that it was BG-42 and burlwood, assembled in the Custom Shop.
Joe sent me an email, so I would have confirmation in writing.
He was very surprised that it left the factory without the stamping though.
Together, we assumed it was as part of the "cost cutting", and it was a great price
for a BG-42 Buck.
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Combine this with my "intuitive" conclusion that it somehow "looked" like BG-42 and at least it will sure have me examining it carefully when I get it.

:)
 
Wolfjohn said:
Whoaaa.........

Thanks bud, I thought I was going to get handed to the wolves on here over selling this thing ...glad you spoke up for me! To be honest, I have no clue where I got it or the history about it either but, now I know you're the one getting it, that makes it even better!! I wouldn't try and hook anyone over a knife- especially anyone buying a Buck~ no way. :thumbup: It's already in the mail box to you too. Enjoy it, if it's not what you want, send it back and I'll refund you your $ for sure.;)
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It appears to be the same knife as one I bought a year or so back. It is indeed a build out, that's why it isn't in the catalogs. Some according to Joe were made using leftover BG-42 blades, but most were 420HC and according to him the BG blades would have the stamp if that's what they are. Mine is the bottom knife in my picture.

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It appears to be the same knife as one I bought a year or so back. It is indeed a build out, that's why it isn't in the catalogs. Some according to Joe were made using leftover BG-42 blades, but most were 420HC and according to him the BG blades would have the stamp if that's what they are. Mine is the bottom knife in my picture.


ok...Now that you said "Build Out"...it struck a chord with me. I do sort of remember going to the Buck factory in Postfalls quite awhile back and buying it (I think) along with a polished blade Tempest in red/black handle that was being offered in the store there. It's a 2 or 3 hour drive from my home and I enjoy going now and then....it's hard to keep track of my purchases let alone find my car keys! :D:D:thumbup:
 
Wolfjohn said:
It appears to be the same knife as one I bought a year or so back. It is indeed a build out, that's why it isn't in the catalogs. Some according to Joe were made using leftover BG-42 blades, but most were 420HC and according to him the BG blades would have the stamp if that's what they are. Mine is the bottom knife in my picture.


ok...Now that you said "Build Out"...it struck a chord with me. I do sort of remember going to the Buck factory in Postfalls quite awhile back and buying it (I think) along with a polished blade Tempest in red/black handle that was being offered in the store there. It's a 2 or 3 hour drive from my home and I enjoy going now and then....it's hard to keep track of my purchases let alone find my car keys! :D:D:thumbup:
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Can anyone really do that???;)

I agree with SOLEIL, as I remember it's supposed to be maple burl. There was a contorversy because the seller I got it from listed it as being BG-42. When it turned out not to be, we had quite a blowout over it, but that's old news. I ended up keeping it because I got it for a great price and I liked it.
 
Plumberdv said:
Can anyone really do that???;)

I agree with SOLEIL, as I remember it's supposed to be maple burl. There was a contorversy because the seller I got it from listed it as being BG-42. When it turned out not to be, we had quite a blowout over it, but that's old news. I ended up keeping it because I got it for a great price and I liked it.
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Heck yeah I can forget that stuff...I hope I didn't send BG my car keys with that knife too....:D
 
Here's a quote from January, 2009
This is in answer to the questions about the one in my picture.

01-29-2009, 09:30 AM
Joe Houser
Moderator Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Post Falls, Idaho U.S.A.
Posts: 2,872

It would be stamped bg-42 if thats what it was made of.
Generally speaking, if the blade does not say what kind of steel it is, then it is made of our current production steel...420hc.
The listing does not show the backside of the blade, which is where the bg-42 stamp could be located.
__________________
Joe Houser
Director of Consumer relations Buck Knives Inc.
Buck Collectors club Liaison, Member #123
 
hope I didn't send BG my car keys with that knife too...
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Blacksmiths all drive those big Lincoln Navigators, right?

Now I could really use one of those!

:D
 
BG42EDGE said:
Yeah, maybe it is box elder.

I've never liked box elder, but this looks almost as good as desert ironwood.

Depends on the particular piece of wood you get, I guess.

The blade seems to have an odd color......reminds me of my namesake steel, BG-42.
Maybe that's just the lighting.
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Interesting you should mention that. One of the listings I saw yesterday, was for a similar 192 with burl handle and BG-42 blade (as listed). Maybe Buck actually made a few this way. I think the listing was in New Zealand. I'll see if I can relocate it.

Edit:
I posted a bit late here. Looks like others already confirmed a few BG-42 versions are out there.
 
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Plumberdv said:
We went through this over a year ago with these very knives. Here's the thread.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=616782&highlight=bg+42+vanguard
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Well, Plumberdv......you went through it, but not quite deeply enough.

Post from 2008:

Well I purchased one. directly thru a Buck dealer. It was advertised as BG-42 made in the custom shop, and when it arrived, not only was it not stamped BG-42, but it didn't have the Custom Shop markings either.

I called, and spoke with Joe. Since it came in the box
and had all the codes, Joe looked it up in their system and found the build info for the run.

Turns out it was assembled for a customer on a sprint run using leftover material to keep the cost down. But the build info in the computer did officially indicate that it was BG-42 and burlwood, assembled in the Custom Shop.

Joe sent me an email, so I would have confirmation in writing.

He was very surprised that it left the factory without the stamping though.
Together, we assumed it was as part of the "cost cutting", and it was a great price
for a BG-42 Buck.
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So, there's no doubt that unmarked BG-42 192s are out there.....my only question is whether or not one is now in the mail to me.

When it arrives I'll look it over and have a better idea of what I might have.

:)
 
Yes, I saw that too. It also means that there are a bunch out there that aren't and have been listed as such.
 
Yes, but your thread didn't include the information that Joe was very surprised when he learned that some of these were leaving the factory without being stamped BG-42.

;)

I think it's a beautiful knife. I see you have one, too.

Congrats.
 
I have a 'Master Series' 119, with the green checkered handles and the Master Series medallion on the grip. My very first post on BF was a question concerning this knife, because I'd been aware that these were produced with BG-42, but had seen pics in various places on the web of some that either did or didn't specifically stamp 'BG-42' on the blade. Turns out both variations are legit BG-42 blades, but were inconsistently marked. So, this doesn't surprise me that much, anymore.
 
No.....Buck Knives is a busy place and funny things happen.

All of which makes it very interesting for the knife enthusiast and collector.

:)
 
I was on the Master Series 119 thread and the discussion moved to the Vanguard BO's and BG42 provided a link to this thread. All this made me go look at my Burl Vanguard BO. The blade on my knife is stamped 192MSU and Master Series, BG-42 on the right side. I believe I bought mine from someone on the forum as I have the amount paid at a lot higher than one usually pays Buck for their BO's.

I really like mine.
 
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