Fixed blade suitable for defending against a bear attack?

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Lorien said:
appropriate to add 'prevaricator' at this juncture
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Yes because, I said I was going to block you unless you started providing some proof of your claims. You respond by labeling me a hypocrite, and then when I ask for proof of that you deflect and twist my words into now claiming I'm a liar.

Well, if I'm a liar here, I think it's DEFINITELY fair to legitimately start calling you a troll at this juncture. You certainly appear to be earning it.

Now, I wouldn't want to continue to fit your incorrectly applied and twisted usage of the term *prevaricator* any longer so...goodbye.
 
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since when is quoting someone's EXACT words twisting them?

anyway, we do have a good number of black bears here. I build trails which means that I spend a lot of time off trail, in the middle of nowhere. The thought of a bear attack creeps into my thoughts from time to time. It's reassuring to have a good blade on me, although the thought of having to use one against a bear absolutely terrifies me.

this is a perfectly valid topic, and post #8 is good as gold
 
buckfynn said:
Just sweet talk the bear a little bit and he will just go away. :D

[video=youtube;nU5cMZymSr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5cMZymSr0[/video]
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Wow, this was pretty damn funny. Pleading nicely worked great for her :p

I just did a 30km solo backpacking in BC a couple weeks back. Of course, I was not able to bring a firearm, so I packed a can of Bear Mace, Jingle Bells, and my ESEE 6s. I didn't encounter any bears up close, but saw a good size black bear about .5 km from my camp while I was trekking out back to the truck. I yelled "Ba-Ba-Booey!!!" at it and it slowly turned away and disappeared back into the treeline.

Be smart, be aware, be prepared, be respectful.
 
.460 revolver kills brown bear

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No time to go digging for the source right now, but pretty recently I was reading that some research was done that collated a bunch of reporting data about bear attacks over a span of years, and statistically folks that used bear spray during an encounter fared *FAR* better than folks with guns who fired and hit bears during an attack, irrespective of caliber.

I recall also reading an anecdote about someone who shot and hit a bear in the heart with a high-caliber firearm, essentially vaporizing the organ. The bear apparently still had enough oxygen in its blood to sprint 50 yards, or something like that, and maul the shooter.

I'll try to find it later.
 
Generally pepper spray works to turn a bear, but if the bear has cubs, not so well. I've turned a lot of aggressive dogs attacking me on my bike with it. They go away faster than they came. Their open mouths as they bark and snap makes the best target. The last one was a German shepherd and it charged up behind me, a good blast to the mouth and I didn't even know where the dog went after that, he was just gone. It was a beautiful sight watching a thick fog of the red mist going right in his open mouth.
 
Bears are big, strong, and tough. They will like take your knife, laugh, then proceed to maul you with your knife. Bear spray is a great option, arguably the best, but a great way to avoid a bear entirely would be a belt attached portable speaker with music playing. Bears don't much care for people and will steer clear of you (most likely). As for a gun, for black bears most any caliber will scare them off, but with a brown or grizzly you want the most Howitzer like you can get. If a brown or grizzly bear attacks you, you will likely have to kill it, but a black bear is generally deterred from a wound. The recommended minimum caliber for brown and grizzly bears is a 357 bare minimum, but 44 is recommended.
 
Just let the bear have his way with you. It will be ok afterwards when you cuddle

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Paul_Atreides said:
Hmm yes, there's one thing I for sure have noticed and that is that the term *troll* gets thrown around pretty carelessly and liberally on these forums. So much so, that I think it may be time for a refresher course on the relevant definition of the term.



'In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.' source - wikipedia

The title of this thread is as follows....'Fixed blade suitable for defending against a bear attack?'

Considering this is the *General KNIFE Discussion* forum, this thread's title and contents wouldn't appear to be too *extraneous* to me (notice I said *EXTRANEOUS* key word there, NOT repetitive).

AHHH what the heck, since all the cool kids seem to be doing it who cares if it's use makes sense or not...right?

TROLL THREAD...TROLL THREAD...TROLL THREAD :rolleyes:
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Who's this? And why so mad??

In all reality this is a stupid topic, however MOST posters have tried to enlighten the OP that perhaps knife vs bear is not a good line of thinking.

If there where any real issues here (besides whatever you're rambling on about) this thread would have been closed.
 
Cobalt said:
Just let the bear have his way with you. It will be ok afterwards when you cuddle

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this post makes it all worthwhile
 
Slowly approach the bear and gently pet the him on the nose. If he's up on two legs and you can't reach, pet him on the inside of the thigh. This will calm the bear and show him you are a friend.
 
So much BS in one thread.... I have seen and dealt with more black bears than I care to count. Around here most black bears weigh in the 200-250# range. At 6'4, 265, I definitely think a big knife would make a difference in a black bear attack. In the extremely rare chance that one attacks you, I would be confident carrying a large fixed blade. In my experience, black bears are like a big raccoon, they will raid your trash but when pushed, they run. Grizzlys on the other hand.... I pray I never run into one, even with a rifle
 
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wroughndt said:
So much BS in one thread.... I have seen and dealt with more black bears than I care to count. Around here most black bears weigh in the 200-250# range. At 6'4, 265, I definitely think a big knife would make a difference in a black bear attack. In the extremely rare chance that one attacks you, I would be confident carrying a large fixed blade. In my experience, black bears are like a big raccoon, they will raid your trash but when pushed, they run. Grizzlys on the other hand.... I pray I never run into one, even with a rifle
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Sure, you may be similar in size and weight to a common blackie, but you don't have 3" claws on each of your ten fingers, large teeth, and the savage strength and brutality of a wild animal. Wild animals have a viciousness that has long ago been civilized out of us humans. They have to kill (with their "bare hands") just to survive. It's like going up against a 250lb murderous psychopath wearing Freddie Kruger gloves. Bears are also built a lot sturdier than humans, with thicker bones, thick fur and hide. While I'm sure you could kill a bear with a knife, I wouldn't be "confident" about it. But I do agree with you that they are skittish and run when pushed. Unless they have cubs, food, or are starving, they won't mess with you.
 
ursamajor said:
How did the fella fare in the attack? Even if you hit the lottery, and deliver a kill strike with a knife, you will still look like you were dragged a few miles behind a truck, on a road made of broken glass and speed bumps.


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Do I have to read and explain the story for you? Of course he got messed up. Better than dying though.
 
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