'Folding Subhilt' - Ce Sun/maker WOW!

When this knife first appeared on TKN a while back I had contact with Siancool about making me one. In the end I backed away not because of the knife but because it had to come from China. Coop, Now that you completed such a deal I have to reconsider as soon as I'm ready to order a new knife. Although that will take a while, but that's another story.

Coop, great catch:thumbup:

Marcel
 
You are the LAST person on the planet who should be worried about resale value.

There are some here who might pay you double or triple what you gave for that knife, so it was a good buy in that sense.

Also, as everyone has said, the knife is a mechanical and design nightmare. It is also completely pointless,IMNSHO, maybe art for art's sake? I mean, here everyone is trying to get their knives as light and balanced as possible, and this weighs over a pound?

I'm just glad that you are happy with it.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I think the knife is fascinating from an engineering and design perspective.
I also think it showcases the amazing quality and value that is available in the "flat world" we live in.

Pointless? Maybe, but so are 90% of art knives.

I sure would like to see it executed in titanium and carbon fiber. Now that would be cool.

Great engraving, BTW.
 
STeven, Yup you gave me a chuckle. Glad you recognize my weird tastes.

Not only is it pointless from a user sense, but the clunkiness of the folded knife is far from being a 'pocket' or better-than-sheathed knife. It takes 15 seconds to extract and outfit it. Mighty stealthy... ;) Don't drop it on your foot, soldier!

Anthony, right on. Sure would be even cooler to see a light and fast one done in ti and carbon. Your comments display that you 'get it'. :)

Even if it was light and balanced and quick--what is the point of a subhilt, or for that matter, ANY fighter? It's all about theoretical fighting aspirations anyway. Not in my suburb.... :eek: :p

Thanks,

Coop
 
Absolutely stunning. It may be 'useless,' but I think it's the coolest, wierdest folder I've ever seen! Thanks very much for the review.
 
Coop, Great photo :eek:
Thank your so much. :D
Some info for the knife.
The Blade Steel:CR12MOV（Same as D2）
Handle Material: Stag
GUARD: Stainless Steel, all parts are 2CR13.
Everything by Sun's handmade such as screw, cuprum gasket......:jerkit:
 
sioncool said:
Everything by Sun's handmade such as screw, cuprum gasket......:jerkit:
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I'm not sure what you are saying. Should we be impressed that Sun makes his own screws? I guess that is impressive, but so do other makers. Personally if I was going to make screws, they would not be slotted screws. And what the hell is a cuprum gasket?

Or do you just like to masturbate a lot?;)

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
And what the hell is a cuprum gasket?
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My first guess would be bronze washers. Cupric=copper, and their size does make 'em look kinda like an O-ring, or "gasket".

On a design like that, I bet that long blade has a lot of leverage on the locking/pivot system. I wonder if it would be worthwhile to make the folding blade guard extend all the way up to butt against the base of the tang, so it's locked from both the top and bottom. It would be kinda like a liner lock, except the lock bar folds up into the handle instead of from the side like a liner.
 
Possum,

Good idea. Looking it over closely, one could add another security step by making a tighter and fitting locking tang on the end of the swing out guard. It has about 2mm's of clearance now, and it does run up behind the blade tang, but I could see where it could be reduced down to about nothing. I give him plenty of credit anyway. I tell ya, it's a monster to release that lockbar.

He also has a small backspring that holds the lockbar in the open position somewhat like a slipjoint. There is thoughts and engineering all over this piece!

STeven, *Only* handmade screws with slots? You're a hard sale..... :rolleyes: Punching out a torx set of screws, hey, why not? Who has done that? No one I have ever heard of. Yet. He he he!

Coop
 
Rhind64 said:
....As for the pivot screws..haha...I have made ALOT of pivots with torx screws..in fact I also make MY OWN torx headed screws!..Rick
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This was a recent quote in another thread from the inestimable Rick Hinderer. Tim Wright makes his own Allen screws. There are two off the top of my head, Coop. Never said the knife was not cool, and I said that if it makes you happy, that is all that matters. As far as what you have heard of...:rolleyes: No one hears of it all, except the Big Guy upstairs.

Anyone who is going to try to convince me that an extremely gifted maker in China is as state-of-the art or "cutting edge" as it gets, is barking up the wrong shrubbery, handmake "cuprum gasket" or not.;)

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Personally if I was going to make screws, they would not be slotted screws
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Actually, if you were concerned with performance you probably would. Slotted screws are stronger and can be tightened easily in the field with a tip of a pocket tool or swiss army knife.

Torx or allen screws look cleaner, but in all actuality, slotted screws are stronger and easier to adjust in the field. I will only use slotted screws on my 1911's for this very reason! :)
 
Anthony Lombardo said:
Actually, if you were concerned with performance you probably would. Slotted screws are stronger and can be tightened easily in the field with a tip of a pocket tool or swiss army knife.

Torx or allen screws look cleaner, but in all actuality, slotted screws are stronger and easier to adjust in the field. I will only use slotted screws on my 1911's for this very reason! :)
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Horsecrap, Anthony!

What is "in the field", exactly? Because in my bugout bag(which I carry everywhere), AKA "manpurse" I have a slick set of Wiha tools that has all usual torx sizes. The Wave Leatheman has an adaptor for a slick set of allen head drivers.

You want slotted screws on your 1911's? Fine, but not me, ALL my handguns use allen head screws for the grips. WHY would you need to mess with your .45 "in the field" to where you had to take the grips off? I carried a handgun every day from January 1991 until October of 1996, and never had to pull the grips "in the field".;)

I think phillips heads offer the greatest mix of strength and function, but I just don't like the way they look.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Hey STeven, I have a feeling you know more about knives than handguns.:D

I have seen about a dozen broken allen screw pistol screws. Never a slotted one. Good ones too-Wilson, Caspian, not junk.

I am glad you carry a Wiha tool set around (Really? That is kind of strange!).

Torx screws are designed for high-speed installation/removal, same with allen screws. If you want the strongest screws, use slotted.

You can carry a gun for 100 years and never need to tighten the grips screws. It is the act of shooting the gun that causes the grips to loosen.

A real distraction whether you are in the "field" as in a combat zone, in a "field" shooting targets or in the "field" just carrying a blaster around all day.

But your mind is already made up!
 
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