'Folding Subhilt' - Ce Sun/maker WOW!

Anthony Lombardo said:
Hey STeven, I have a feeling you know more about knives than handguns.:D

I have seen about a dozen broken allen screw pistol screws. Never a slotted one. Good ones too-Wilson, Caspian, not junk.

I am glad you carry a Wiha tool set around (Really? That is kind of strange!).

But your mind is already made up!
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1. You got me, Anthony, I know FAR more about knives than guns, but have still been actively into them since 1993, so that's 13 years.

2. I have never "broken" a pistol grip screw, but I have stripped two of them. I have also busted a bunch of Chapman slotted screwdrivers either tightening or loosening a slotted screw, so there!:p I shoot the crap out of my guns, maybe 200-300 rounds per gun at the range, once every other month.

3. Maybe it is strange to carry around a Wiha tool set, but it is about the size of a pack of cards, and you would be surprised how much I use it, not just for myself, but for other people, too.

4. Damned straight that my mind is made up, but that does not mean that I am unwilling to learn, I'm just going by experience on this one.

Like they say, YMMV.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I talk to him today, and tell him your knife is very popular on the knife forums.
He said "Oh, my god. Today is the happiest day in my life. I'll work hard to make much better knives. Thanks a million. "
 
Sion,

I am really pleased he feels he's been recognized at the level he deserves. The responses HAVE been genuine.

Even better? I'd better get back in line.... :thumbup:

Coop
 
I like it, it's innovative, great stag and very nicely engraved. Congratulations to it's Daddy, Coop. :) As Anthony pointed out, most knives we collect are conceived and built as a type of art, and art is generally not compatable with pure utility. Though a really nice, engraved stag Sendero does combine the 2 worlds nicely, I'll admit. :) If pure utility was all one was concerned with, the world of custom knives would be pretty boring. I like art, and custom knives seem to be the only art I really like, I'm glad there is lots of variety, and so, a folding, elegant Sambar stag subhilt is pretty cool in my book.

In any case, regarding slotted screws vs. allen/Torx, I always replace stock pistol grip screws with stainless allen or Torx, same difference to me, I think they look nicer, and won't rust, and properly Loctited, they won't come loose. I never met a Sig grip screw that didn't rust the first day I carried the gun IWB. :) So, they are all SS Allens now. But, with Loctite, I never had a grip screw come loose either.

My Glock grips haven't needed any Loctite so far, and oddly, no rust issues. :)

Emerson has long used slotted screws on his knives for the reasons Anthony mentioned, they do have some advantages, harder to strip a slotted screw, and it is much easier to access one when the unexpected happens, with makeshift tools, and, I do own a few high end art knives where the makers thought slotted screws just looked cleaner on the knife, and most didn't even filework them! :eek:

So, my take is, slotted can look cleaner on an art knife, is generally more functional than its screw competition, but in certain things, like pistol grip screws, I just prefer the look of Allen/Torx. Plus, once you unscrew and/or tighten a slotted screw, well, you can tell. :)

Holy crap, did I just agree with STeven? :confused: :eek: :D
 
looks like you agreed with me, at least on the gun grip point.:D

I will say, regarding slotted screws, that if they are to be used, fileworking is preferable.

My biggest peeve, especially if the knife is in the realm of $1,000 or so, is that the screw slots should be indexed, so that they all are in the same direction. This is difficult, but it looks SO much better, that it is worth the effort. If the maker does not do this, then I have to Garssonize it.:D

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
My biggest peeve, especially if the knife is in the realm of $1,000 or so, is that the screw slots should be indexed, so that they all are in the same direction. This is difficult, but it looks SO much better, that it is worth the effort.
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STeven I agree with you, but I have a few remarks.

1. If nobody ever told him that, and we can imagine that that's the case, then he might not do it.
2. The screws not being in the same direction can be explained as "done by hand" although I prefer them in the same direction as a token of "eye for detail".
3. I've seen the same "fault" occur on knives that are twice as much and by makers not from China:D

Marcel
 
Marcel54 said:
STeven I agree with you, but I have a few remarks.

1. If nobody ever told him that, and we can imagine that that's the case, then he might not do it.
2. The screws not being in the same direction can be explained as "done by hand" although I prefer them in the same direction as a token of "eye for detail".
3. I've seen the same "fault" occur on knives that are twice as much and by makers not from China:D

Marcel
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Marcel, this comment was not directed towards this knife specifically, but ANY custom knife that uses slotted screws.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Coop,

I have been away, but coming back to see this one is a real treat!
I look forward to fondling it shortly.

Best,

P
 
Hey Coop-

That's an incredible knife you've got there...Wow is right! This one presses all of my buttons. I love watching what happens to the guard when the knife is folded. It's a mechanical wonder! :thumbup::thumbup:

As for slotted screws...I may be in the minority (or not) but I for one generally prefer the look of Torx screws for most applications...and that includes art knives. They're so much cleaner...with smaller "footprints" and relatively easy to decorate with filework. I always use them on my "art" knives and recently at the Blade Show I ran into a couple of well known, New England makers (for whom I have a great deal of respect), who actually said to me "you can't use Torx screws on that kind of knife!"... I guess I must of missed that section in the rule book. Oh well, we don't have to agree on everything. ;)


Dennis Greenbaum :cool:
 
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