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Ontario RAT
If you mean the RAT 1, that is my choice for a woods/survival folder. Large enough without being too large, solid and very reliable so far. But.. it's made in Taiwan.
Ontario RAT
Of the ones I have personally owned,
ZT 200
Buck/TOPS CSAR-T
Ritter RSK-1
And I know you specified USA made only, but I will toss a second vote for the Ontario RAT-1, as well as the CRK&T Desert Cruiser.
You're right I was in error. I've got one in a box somewhere so I should have known better.......... I think it's a great knife for the woods along with the EKA Big Swede, and that got me trippin' on all sorts of designs I enjoy but don't find so good in the sticks because the handle doesn't afford a good amount of cutting power. And that many with good handles have that over built can't cut properly-ness about them. The EKA was an obvious diss because of origin but the Ontario slipped through................Got to wonder though, each man to his own and all that, but I get a little bit bewildered by these arbitrary constraints. Personally, the more I've learned about knives the better I have become at evaluating a knife on merit alone. I strip out all the back story, which guru likes it, how many ninjas apparently have them issued, what it cost or who made it or where, any of that. I find that clouds the subject more than anything and you end up with a knife like Tarzan had type mentality. Sure you wouldn't strip it all out completely because there are potentially useful information packets in there that could be useful downstream it's got a Bos HT vs uncertain for example. To my mind though when you rank this extra information from most useful to most useless the country of manufacture doesn't necessarily tell me much of anything. On that, I find it totally cart before horse to consider it as a primacy.......Rant off.If you mean the RAT 1, that is my choice for a woods/survival folder. Large enough without being too large, solid and very reliable so far. But.. it's made in Taiwan.
You're right I was in error. I've got one in a box somewhere so I should have known better.......... I think it's a great knife for the woods along with the EKA Big Swede, and that got me trippin' on all sorts of designs I enjoy but don't find so good in the sticks because the handle doesn't afford a good amount of cutting power. And that many with good handles have that over built can't cut properly-ness about them. The EKA was an obvious diss because of origin but the Ontario slipped through................Got to wonder though, each man to his own and all that, but I get a little bit bewildered by these arbitrary constraints. Personally, the more I've learned about knives the better I have become at evaluating a knife on merit alone. I strip out all the back story, which guru likes it, how many ninjas apparently have them issued, what it cost or who made it or where, any of that. I find that clouds the subject more than anything and you end up with “a knife like Tarzan had” type mentality. Sure you wouldn't strip it all out completely because there are potentially useful information packets in there that could be useful downstream – it's got a Bos HT vs uncertain for example. To my mind though when you rank this extra information from most useful to most useless the country of manufacture doesn't necessarily tell me much of anything. On that, I find it totally cart before horse to consider it as a primacy.......Rant off.
You can get the best of all worlds... An american company based in California that was started by a Canadian, but it's products are built and assembled in Italy. The company is DPx Gear and the knife is the Hest/F.
I doubt this post will prove popular because I know there's a strong Reeve contingent on this forum, but those are exactly the kind of thing I think are are totally unsuitable. I'm sure they are splendid knives and all that, and I wouldn't want some upstart to jump in putting words into my mouth because I have a very specific peeve, and that's nothing to do with the quality of Reeve knives. The fact is they are thin at the handle and that makes it really hard to put down any power compared to alternatives. I won't point that just at Reeve either. A lot of Spydercos are the same way. I love Spyderco but there's a world of difference between big and comfortably hand filling. As a specific example; I'm with 2' of an excellent Spyderco Police model. Take a simple task like bending a stick over and whittling down through it with a push of body weight and even the desperately inferior and antiquated Gerber Gator folder will power down the cut much more comfortably. No matter how big they are, compared to alternatives, thin handled folders put a hurt on the web of your hand if you try to apply much force into a cut........If we consider why variations on the broomstick handle abound on fixed blade neo-bushcraft twig whittlers whereas slim or string wrapped efforts not so much it's not surprising. It doesn't matter at all for light duty use or game gathering, but for working wood it starts to matter PDQ. I extent that line of reasoning to “a survival folder” that whilst isn't going to be abused is going to need to be a lot more comfortable to cut hard with than what probably rides more discretely as an EDC. I was quite surprised the Enzo folders with their neo-bushcraft bent decided to go slim for exactly that reason, whereas something like the EKA 92 for industry, farming and forestry is nothing like that. As with the Reeve and Gerber, I'm sure the Enzo is probably a finer knife than the EKA but I know which one I'd rather hold for jobs involving a good amount of force.........2cents
You can get them on ebay. There's 2 on ebay right now, and they pop up pretty regularly. They go for about $400 average I'd say, I got one for $265, $359, and $400. I'm a big Lone Wolf fan so I keep my eyes open for them. The advertised retail price when they were in production was $300, but some place had them for as little as $195, so they are more now obviously but they are great knives.Zt 0200, 0300, 0301 any of email are fairly bulletproof.
My choice is the Lone wolf Harsey T3, but they are no longer made.
I just ordered a Benchmade 275 Adamas. Looks to be another serious contender.