For some reason, Emerson has never appealed to me.

furfmonkey said:
some people like to be dicks on the internet....
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Internet tough. This whole thread just makes my **** hurt.

I just received my first emerson in the mail today (cqc 15). Fit and finish are just as good as my Manix 2's, my para 2, other spydies, and my two benchmades. The g10 and liners are perfectly aligned all across the knife.

Actually Even after one day, I think I like this folder more than the above mentioned. Idk, but for me I tend to like the robustness. It's just is a COOL factor for me.:D The wave is one of the best folder innovations out there IMO, love the thumb disk, and the double detent is an interesting addition too.
 
i hope you arent calling me internet tough? ( i don't even know what that means) I called it how i saw it... people purposely putting down emersons for no reason other than to be dicks.. or tout their own fav knives and make comparisons that make no sense
 
lsheldon said:
I have a couple of Emersons, a Karambit and a CQC-14 that I picked up a Ti lockside for from STR and a CQC-7. I like them, but nothing special for the money.

Now my complaint is have you ever tried to get any of the Christmas knives? There were supposedly 5 Christmas Karambits sold for 2010, all 5 of them are currently on fleabay. One with a CF handle by one person for 799, and the other 4 for sale by one person :confused: for 899. Try wrapping your head around that..... (You would think for special limited edition knives they would spread the love around a bit. Guess not evidently.)

I may get an older Benchmade made CQC-7 if I can find it for a decent price though.
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At that point, it's better to get a knifemaker to mod an existing knife. Sucks to be whoever pays asking price on those.
 
furfmonkey said:
i hope you arent calling me internet tough? ( i don't even know what that means) I called it how i saw it... people purposely putting down emersons for no reason other than to be dicks.. or tout their own fav knives and make comparisons that make no sense
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I am agreeing with you. Not calling you anything.
 
You can call people di*k's and say they are b*tching. In return I called you a baby. And when I am posting consider it a conversation. You seem to enjoy replying. Maturity, why go there.:thumbdn:
After all this I would still carry an Emerson if a certain design appeals to me. They are functional and durable. But I still prefer to add the character to my knife. That said, the last one I owned was customized and looked great. Whenever I'm working at my fathers CNC/Shop. Either for him or customizing knives. I appreciate a clean finished product.
Thank you
Matt B.

furfmonkey said:
glad to see you make an intelligent and mature statement :) No one is forcing you to read my posts or even reply to them. You are acting as if you and me are having a conversation... we are not ...im posting about the topic and you are coming after me .. i would advise against that.. calling people names on the internet just shows us all your maturity level and your inability to formulate a coherent reply.
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I stood up for a knife company That my father ,my uncle, and I have supported well over a decade... My Emersons have never failed me and saved my ass on more than one occasion.. people want to whine about fit finish etc when the maker states time and time and time again how and why his knives look like that ... that would be like me going on all the spyderco forums and constantly complaining about the big holes in the blade... its made that way.

heres the deal Emerson makes his knives to be used.. afterall a knife is a tool meant to be used not gawked at on a shelf or some internet forum.. its apparent some of you have forgotten this.. whats important to me about Emerson knives is : blade sharpness, that the lock works (no im not going to be hitting my knife with a hammer to fail the lock thats just stupid) and consistent quality and great customer service all of which Emerson does....

I also can say this about my Benchmade knives and Spydercos... I am sorry but if a Knife maker says there are going to be small imperfections on a blade because of the way they are hand grinded and then you choose to complain about said scratches... you are wrong not the knifemaker i consider that to give the knife character.. unless your pretty little knife is never going to be used other than to look cool in a pocket or pictures.. your knife will get scratched dirty and dull from reg use..obviously you dont want a trashed knife but they are hardly sold like that

its like buying a jacked up 4x4 truck that says it get 12/18 mpg and then bitching about how much gas you put in it every week ...

most people read up on something before making a purchase.. and when you received your new emerson and was unhappy with it return it... i stand up for what i believe in... what do you do..?
 
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Anybody pissing and moaning about an Emerson's finish hasn't a clue what they're buying and certainly don't need it for what's it's intended.

You know what, nobody here cares about your incessant whining.

You want pretty, buy a SAK and go play in the SwissBianco Furum.
 
easy1 said:
Anybody pissing and moaning about an Emerson's finish hasn't a clue what they're buying and certainly don't need it for what's it's intended.

You know what, nobody here cares about your incessant whining.

You want pretty, buy a SAK and go play in the SwissBianco Furum.
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are SAK the gold standard of pretty knives? I'd tell them to buy a Mayo, Cook or Sibert folder :D
 
Interesting comments. About 17 yrs ago or so I wanted an Emerson CQC 7. I never got around to getting the BM version, so I finally got one back in '99 (A '99 CQC 7, satin finish CE model). I believe that was the 2nd yr of his own production versions.

That knife is still with me & has gone through a great deal, including outright abuse (& yes, it's been used in a SD situation, too).

It never was pretty & I'm not a big fan of chisel grinds, but it sure is comfortable in the hand & the lock has worked fine. The steel holds its edge fine & hasn't chipped. I can't really complain about it.

Since then, I've had a # of Emersons, none that I've kept (Although I wish I still had a couple of certain ones).

Are they worth the $? Who knows? Some complain about the cost of certain Spydercos, but others think they're a bargain & the same can be said about Emersons. I've been happy with the ones I've had & for what I've paid for them (Or traded). I've noticed a # of people having issues with them (Troublesome locks, poor F&F, etc). While I wouldn't say Emersons are pretty, I've never had an issue with their function (No problems with the locks, no chipping, etc).

If you've had issues with them, I can understand why you don't like them. If you think they're overpriced, again, don't buy them. I suppose it'd be nice if they were a little less expensive, but are they really more expensive than comparable, U.S. made knives of the same size/materials?

For me, they've been solid knives, period.
 
I too have issues with the F&F of my only (thus far) Emerson, a CQC8. The Scales and liners weren't flush, the opening was gritty, and it even rubbed off black on my hands and clothing - probably machine dust left from the production process.

I have never had such a horrendous first impression from any knife - factory, studio, or otherwise.

Having said that, it cleaned up nice, opens smooth, and locks up rock solid. I have no prejudice towards liner locks, especially when they seem to be done right, which appears to be the case with my Emerson.

Regardless of the F&F, which I insist in my particular case is shoddy at best, I have no doubts the knife would stand up to hard use or abuse when asked. What's more, I would sooner abuse my Emerson than I would one of my Reeves or BMs or Kershaws, so it's been scoring a reasonable amount of pocket time in spite of my problems with it.
I read a story on the forums about a guy who lost his 8 on a trucker's road - didn't get it back until a few semis had ran it over, and the damage to the frame was minimal.
I saw a video on youtube of a 10 getting its spine rapped time and again against nails, slowly hammering them into a piece of hardwood. Then the hole in the blade was used to twist the nails completely around.

I am reasonably sure these knives qualify as tough, which (though I hate to admit it) is good enough for me.

I admit that I have been spoiled by the F&F of many other factory and studio knives - Reeve and Kershaw in particular - but that is their design philosophy, not Emerson's. I am immensely respectful of makers that dedicate themselves to a fit and finish that is immaculate beyond practicality, but Emerson's ambition seems to be simply to go as far as a knife that is solid and hard-working, and then stop. Polished details are superfluous to the design and purpose of an Emerson knife, so perhaps this is not unreasonable - even if many of us would complain about incosistency and shoddiness, and demand something better.

I cannot speak for pricing, or for Emerson's marketing techniques. Economics and marketing are not my strong suites.

All I know is I spent money on an Emerson knife which, excessive or not, I don't regret spending, and that I may yet do so again someday.
 
Capolan said:
Ok - so how are those in comparison? are those up to par of a true custom knife?

(I've never handled a custom Emerson - only the productions...)
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Hi Capolan, honestly i don't see how a fair comparison could be done. Various knives by different makers have differences such as:

Blade steel
Blade thickness
Blade grind
Handle material
Opening mechanism, i.e: thumbstud, wave, flipper, etc etc..

& what about differences in design, handle ergonomics, etc...

Different makers adopt different knife making philosophies, different techniques, and focus on different things. Some knife makers ship their knives with a freaking sharp edge, some ship it with a sharp-enough edge for use.

What i've learnt over the years through collecting knives is that each knife from a different maker is very different, & there really is no point in comparing...what benefit does that give you?...I view each knife as an individual, and after collecting a few knives from makers, i start to realize what makers' works appeal to me the most, and which makers' work just doesn't strike a chord with me. If you like the knife design, do some online research to see if what's said about the maker is acceptable for u. If there isn't anything said which totally turns you off a knife in general, then i'd suggest you give a maker a try, get one or a few pieces to try out and see if you like his work, or if you don't..:)

Cheers and Regards,
Nick
 
I just got done reading every damn word in this thread in one sitting. Dont own an Emerson yet. But if Emersons' knives are like his demeanor, then they appeal to me. I dont care if somethings rough around the edges, I want something I can beat to hell, and it will keep on taking it. And that sounds like what an Emerson is. So with that tomorrow, I think I will pull the trigger on a commander.

Im glad for all the input. The "haters" if all they can complain about is lack of f&f, then thats not much, to me. The people who own them, use them, sound like they love them, that means more that if something is off by .0000001".
 
One of the main things keeping me from buying another Emerson, is that the ones I like are never in stock.
 
StuntDouble said:
One of the main things keeping me from buying another Emerson, is that the ones I like are never in stock.
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Which kind of says something, doesn't it?

Thinking back on models I've had, one that I wish I kept was last yr a CQC 7A (CE spear-point model). It was a '10 model with the stone-wash/polished blade. Talk about F&F. The blade grind, look, shape, etc...was gorgeous & easily on par with the best of comparable production knives at the same price point.

Also, Emerson's wave as done on his folders are, for me, mechanically the best. They seem to open easier/better than Spyderco's waved Delica/Endura even though the Spyderco's wave is larger.
 
placed an order a few days ago for a cqc7, and just found a A-100 last night through a dealer. i cant wait to get them. :)
 
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