Forced mustard patina not working on Becker bk-9





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Seen worse as a mech I remember seeing them fold up like an accordion o top of themselves... at least the way that pic is you can use a tanker bar to try to roll it back on

As for the patina... ferric chloride works and I think I’m going to sand first and see about a patina after sanding

It’s cleaned but I never sanding it first
 
well i checked the FAQ for the issue of being able to upload images per Fli.kr I guess and man you really have to jump through a millions hoops just to link an image? I haven't a clue why i just can't pick from my "library" a paste it in. but Im not a mod and don't run a site... so its off to learn how to get my knife images online here.

Im trying a goldens Spicy mustard to patina to see if that works. its the only mustard at the store that have vinegar listed Before water on the ingredients label. Probably doesn't mean much could be .0001% more vin than h2o but we'll see

Talk to you later Tanker.
OBTW. when i got to my unit it was awesome.. the unit was out in germany for reforger and i got there after they already left...So I was 24 on and two days off for CQ for over a month.... got a lot of fishing in at stillhouse and becton lake...then my unit got back and I found out why we were 98% OPERATIONAL READINESS. holy crap. motor pool at 5am not PT and done at 11pm ..foooooreeeever it seemed.
 
Loosechange said:
well i checked the FAQ for the issue of being able to upload images per Fli.kr I guess and man you really have to jump through a millions hoops just to link an image? I haven't a clue why i just can't pick from my "library" a paste it in. but Im not a mod and don't run a site... so its off to learn how to get my knife images online here.

Im trying a goldens Spicy mustard to patina to see if that works. its the only mustard at the store that have vinegar listed Before water on the ingredients label. Probably doesn't mean much could be .0001% more vin than h2o but we'll see

Talk to you later Tanker.
OBTW. when i got to my unit it was awesome.. the unit was out in germany for reforger and i got there after they already left...So I was 24 on and two days off for CQ for over a month.... got a lot of fishing in at stillhouse and becton lake...then my unit got back and I found out why we were 98% OPERATIONAL READINESS. holy crap. motor pool at 5am not PT and done at 11pm ..foooooreeeever it seemed.
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Met my first wife in Germany. Reforger lol Not to many people remember those. 2AD Forward had the 2/66th in Germany The 1st and 3rd was out of Hood. We would TDY on occasion. Good talking to ya. Good times for sure. Well not the ex-wife part lol
 
Ok guys so I guess it’s fine to ask... I used Golden’s mustard and let it sit for three hours and washed it off... nothing not a line not pattern nothing. The FC worked great... I used nail polish and splotched it around some and dipped twice in FC for 20 minutes each no longer cause the paint pen marking didn’t hold up. But I got some nice color contrast and love it... I am going to redo more and longer on my day off

I am very concerned that the mustard trick isn’t working at all. Nor is the electro vinager salt thing

I’ve already stripped it and etched it with FC but I want to know if it’s real. Maybe the two places I went to were blowing smoke up my.... nose.

Also on the bk-9 it has the Becker name on one side of the blade and bk-9 name on the other but should it be etched into the metal or just printed on it? I took off the black coating with jasco and after cleaning the names were still on the knife... however after etching they are pretty much gone. Should they disappear with etching?
 
Loosechange said:
Ok guys so I guess it’s fine to ask... I used Golden’s mustard and let it sit for three hours and washed it off... nothing not a line not pattern nothing. The FC worked great... I used nail polish and splotched it around some and dipped twice in FC for 20 minutes each no longer cause the paint pen marking didn’t hold up. But I got some nice color contrast and love it... I am going to redo more and longer on my day off

I am very concerned that the mustard trick isn’t working at all. Nor is the electro vinager salt thing

I’ve already stripped it and etched it with FC but I want to know if it’s real. Maybe the two places I went to were blowing smoke up my.... nose.

Also on the bk-9 it has the Becker name on one side of the blade and bk-9 name on the other but should it be etched into the metal or just printed on it? I took off the black coating with jasco and after cleaning the names were still on the knife... however after etching they are pretty much gone. Should they disappear with etching?
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You should have etched before you stripped. The blade coating is what holds the etch in place. I fear that you might have washed the laser etch printing away:( Here is a 1st Production Run Bk17 Signed by Ethan Becker that I salvaged. There was enough coating left around the signature that I could save it before I stripped. Unfortunately I couldn't save part of the number 1st in production run. Somebody had stabbed many things and the coating was gone in that area.
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Loosechange. If you pay $10 for a basic membership. You can add pictures to your posts easy. Just in case you did not know.

I only use onions for patina. Stab knife in wait 2 days. Cool patina, super easy.
 
eveled said:
Loosechange. If you pay $10 for a basic membership. You can add pictures to your posts easy. Just in case you did not know.

I only use onions for patina. Stab knife in wait 2 days. Cool patina, super easy.
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I'm gonna try that onion thing. Thanks eveled:thumbsup:
 
Paying it is then thanks I’ll be back later with some images

Btw sorry I misrepresented my statement. I wasn’t trying to patina or mustard patina the already acid dipped blade. It was the metal under the hadnsle I wanted “practice” on that didn’t take. However I did you tube and see some bk9’s have the name inscribed but they are older than mine

I also read that 1095 cro van isn’t truely 1095? Something about it not being true because the vanadium, chromium, I believe Nicole and a few other minute traces of other metals

Is it true it’s not ... sites have been giving it another nomenclature with a 500**** desigmation
 
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Here what is have... so I got the 10.00 member ship and only
Three of the 5 images will upload I guess cause that’s all the shows up to attach

One had tooth markes not sure why... the whole blade is great but only this one area under the handle

Other image is a attempt to etch with the kosher salt:: vinegar battery idea... that small discoloration is over 25 minutes of dabbing while whatchong an online movie... barely there at all... can’t even feel it with the fingernail test

And as you can see no discoloration from mustard at all

Last one if it works is the “ micro grooves” I talked about in previous post. Zoom in you can see them very well

I don’t know how many images I can post now that it seems I may have used my 5 meg up for images I think

Should I thumbnail or do full?
 
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Loosechange said:
Paying it is then thanks I’ll be back later with some images

Btw sorry I misrepresented my statement. I wasn’t trying to patina or mustard patina the already acid dipped blade. It was the metal under the hadnsle I wanted “practice” on that didn’t take. However I did you tube and see some bk9’s have the name inscribed but they are older than mine

I also read that 1095 cro van isn’t truely 1095? Something about it not being true because the vanadium, chromium, I believe Nicole and a few other minute traces of other metals

Is it true it’s not ... sites have been giving it another nomenclature with a 500**** desigmation
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The older 9s were roll stamped. But that process had the potential for stress fractures. So the process was changed to a laser etching.
 
09517EEE-248B-4F72-B149-C707AEE9E942.jpeg New image with a salt/ vinegar battery etch.... 45 seconds two passes on Aus-8 steel... Fujiwara gyotu... why not Sharon steel 50100B... my bk-9 ohhh so sad

I researched here and found 1095 cro-van is a marketing term for Kabar using Sharon steel
 
Xr6x said:
Not sure the order of the steps you've taken? Deepening the Etch should be first before stripping. Very important not to have any oil or dirt on the etch. I use rubbing alcohol to clean it. Same with forcing a patina clean first :D here's some pics
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Now would be the time to strip the paint if you wanted to :thumbsup:
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That's true, etching should be done before stripping the knife...
 
Ok so back to the Kabar bk-9 question... I’m hearing I’m suppose to etch the knife before I strip it... but how is that going to be possible to etch when the knife was coated with some sort of black coating on it? Whew maybe be this simple etching is just too complex for my small mind lol! Seriously though how do I Etch first then strip? How will the etch.... oh wait you mean mask the knife then etch then remove the mask yes? That’s what I did but alas nothing so I’m going to find some HC knives at some local pawn shops if I’m lucky they will be Becker’s if possible. I pawn hop a lot and know some people. I’ll let you know what happens.

Going to re etch with FC the Becker later this week
 
I thought you just wanted to set the existing etch. That you do before stripping. I haven't tried etching a pattern but 91bravo 91bravo has done a few. Maybe he will show up and put this question to rest:thumbsup:
 
You can not etch through a coating. Etching only works if there is bare metal exposed, like inside the Becker logo itself. The etchant solution will eat away at the metal, giving it a stamped look. I have tried etching on a bare BK5, which now belongs to Tanker 1/66 Tanker 1/66 . I did the words Molon Labe and a spartan helmet. My wife just cut out the reverse stencil on her Cricut and I stuck in on the blade. Fill the stencil up with Radioshack PCB etchant solution and let it do its job. Maybe Tanker can post a pic of it, I didn't etch it very deep, just enough to barely see it.
 
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