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Well he had the same opportunity as the other contestant to win. It was not "show me a picture of what you can do" it literally is "show us what you can do"
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Well he had the same opportunity as the other contestant to win. It was not "show me a picture of what you can do" it literally is "show us what you can do"
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It was not "show me what you can do" it literally is "show us what you can do making a knife with crap materials under BS constraints inside a shop without everything you really without an accurate heat treatment or anything you really need to make a knife worth showing off to the entire country"
No wonder knife makers aren't coming out of the woodwork trying to get known. Seriously, how many full time or mostly full time knife makers have come on the show?
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I just dont like the game show gimmicks. To much time constraints. They had to make their own hammers?? Make a knife from car parts or unknown metal? Why not stick to showing real blade smithing, give them a little more time. I like the show, like the judges and like theirs tests on the blades.
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You mean like all of these people?
1st Place: Matthew Parkinson http://www.dragonsbreathforge.com/matt.html
2nd Place: Rich Greenwood http://www.pokabuforge.com
3rd Place: Billy Helton http://heltoncustomknives.com/
4th Place: Joe Waites http://www.albion-swords.com/inhouse/joe.htm
2 "Chakram" 1st Place: Chris Farrell https://www.etsy.com/people/csfarrell
2nd Place: Trenton Tye http://www.purgatoryironworks.com
3rd Place: Grant Marcoux http://www.grantsforge.com
4th Place: Chad Harding http://www.hardingknives.net
3 "Viking Battle Axe" 1st Place: Ryu Lim https://www.instagram.com/ryu.lim/
2nd Place: Jonathan Porter http://www.doghouseforge.com/
3rd Place: Phil Evans http://www.glenviewforge.com
4th Place: James Huse http://www.huseknives.com
4 "Katar" 1st Place: David Goldberg http://www.arizonacustomknives.com/David-Goldberg.aspx
2nd Place: Jaime L. Vining http://www.viningforge.com
3rd Place: Jimmy Seymour https://www.facebook.com/seymourmade/
4th Place: Arnon Andrey Kartmazov http://bridgetownforge.com/knives/
5 "Crusader Sword" 1st Place: Peter Swarz-Burt http://www.dragonsbreathforge.com/peter.html
2nd Place: David Roeder https://www.facebook.com/Custom-Knives-by-David-Roeder-JS-730614966949653/
3rd Place: Matt Venier http://www.venierdesign.com
4th Place: Gabriel Bell http://www.dragonflyforge.com
6 "The Elizabethan Rapier" 1st Place: Guy Harris https://www.facebook.com/Harris-Custom-Knives-300789586687355/
2nd Place: Peter Martin http://www.petermartinknives.com
3rd Place: Peter Szymanski http://www.phenixknives.com
4th Place: JD Smith http://www.amerrussbladearts.com
7 "The Roman Gladius" 1st Place: Jamie Lundell http://www.dragonsbreathforge.com/jamie.html
2nd Place: Mareko Maumasi http://www.maumasifirearts.com
3rd Place: Maxon McCarter https://www.facebook.com/maxon.mccarter/tv
4th Place: Adam Ison https://www.etsy.com/shop/ForgeDetroit
8 "The Moro Kris" 1st Place: Mace Vitale https://www.facebook.com/Mace-Knives-485257134827510/
2nd Place: Murray Carter http://www.cartercutlery.com/
3rd Place: Ray Kirk http://www.rakerknives.com
4th Place: Jason Morrissey http://www.jasonmorrissey.com
Of those there are at least 3 other ABS master smiths, for those that decide to play that game, besides the one you are rooting for, who lost a canister damascus challenge where they were supplied prime new material instead of junk steel...
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I think the point is being missed repeatedly here...
It's as simple as face value.
JD Smith makes amazing knives. Better than most who have been on the show, period. In his own shop, or at the university.
He got beat at a game. Partly due to his own inattention, partly because he was out of his comfort zone.
I can attest absolutely to how hard it is to retain the information that Will is speaking in the moment. I felt lucky at one point that we had to do another take, because the size requirement he'd just uttered went in one ear and out the other. You get wrapped up in your game plan, and it is hard to focus correctly.
For that matter, the second time I was on the show, Burt Foster got cut on the first round. I bet privately all of us thought he'd likely win. I know I did.
It's a game, luck is a big factor, coolness under pressure is huge, focus is key, and in the end, it's still Any Given Sunday.
What I like to think, is that for many of the smiths, it serves merely as an introduction to the public. The viewer, if sufficiently interested in the craft, is then free to seek out more information about the work that smith is capable of given normal working conditions.
It's as simple as face value.
JD Smith makes amazing knives. Better than most who have been on the show, period. In his own shop, or at the university.
He got beat at a game. Partly due to his own inattention, partly because he was out of his comfort zone.
I can attest absolutely to how hard it is to retain the information that Will is speaking in the moment. I felt lucky at one point that we had to do another take, because the size requirement he'd just uttered went in one ear and out the other. You get wrapped up in your game plan, and it is hard to focus correctly.
For that matter, the second time I was on the show, Burt Foster got cut on the first round. I bet privately all of us thought he'd likely win. I know I did.
It's a game, luck is a big factor, coolness under pressure is huge, focus is key, and in the end, it's still Any Given Sunday.
What I like to think, is that for many of the smiths, it serves merely as an introduction to the public. The viewer, if sufficiently interested in the craft, is then free to seek out more information about the work that smith is capable of given normal working conditions.
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Those of you who see my posts here know that I make knives by stock reduction but I watch the Forged in Fire show just to see what the show will throw at the knife makers this week. I know that it is entertainment but I feel bad for the knife makers sometimes because they so constrained by time and often given a scrap pile( of terrible steel in some cases). If I was timed on making a knife I would not start because it would be no fun for me but I guess the contestants have their own reasons to compete including exposure and money but I still feel bad for some of them. Some of these brave souls have looked like they were getting heat stroke or about to have a heart attack. I would love to see the judges have to produce a knife from the pile of scrap they give the contestants...I would pay to see that. Larry P.S. I also thought that having 24 hour epoxy on the shelf was a lousy thing to do. LL
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This might be the next thing for cooking shows. We always see those fine raw ingredients they get to work with. And it's always stated that fresh ingredients means everything. Maybe it would be more of a challenge if they were presented with the food equivalent of a junk automobile.
Or the other way around. Let's get these fine contestants some fine raw ingredients.
Or the other way around. Let's get these fine contestants some fine raw ingredients.
Sure it is a game. Ironic Gabe Bell got knock out in the first round of a Hamon challenge. If he had dipped his blade in etchant before the judging that would of been a game changer. The contestants might as well be anonymous and wear paper bags over their heads so their reputations do not influence bias in judging.
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I've said that from the beginning. The judges shouldn't know whose knives they're looking at.
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I have watched all the episodes and enjoy it and by now the contestants know what they are getting in to. Its a competition and like Salem said any given sunday one or the other can win.
Some of the challenges have been a little to much and I are almost doomed from the start but most have been fun to watch and probably appeal to alot of the general public.
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Some of the challenges have been a little to much and I are almost doomed from the start but most have been fun to watch and probably appeal to alot of the general public.
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Forged in Fire Champion, I agree that's an odd title for each episode, it would be a better title if it were granted to a smith at the END of the Season and comparing all the episode winners to come up with the actual Champion and possibly a bit more $ for the one that was voted to be overall best for that Season.
probably not as easy a thing to cover/decide but would be a more fitting title.
just my 2 cents...
At the Ashokan Seminar this past Sept we had 5 guys that were in the Forged in Fire episodes, 3 of them being winners, all of them very down to earth guys, it was great getting to see them there.
We jokingly told some of them that we were going to put all 5 on stage like a comic-con convention interview...but we didn't do it
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probably not as easy a thing to cover/decide but would be a more fitting title.
just my 2 cents...
At the Ashokan Seminar this past Sept we had 5 guys that were in the Forged in Fire episodes, 3 of them being winners, all of them very down to earth guys, it was great getting to see them there.
We jokingly told some of them that we were going to put all 5 on stage like a comic-con convention interview...but we didn't do it
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I was wondering why there seemed to be such a disconnect between his relatively beautiful spear blade and those brick like lugs that, honestly, seemed very much like an afterthought. I wonder why they made a "MINIMUM" weight requirement though? I can understand max limitations, but minimum? Seems a little odd.
At any rate, I enjoy the show for the most part, although certain parts of it get a little bizarre or corny at times. Then again, you have to remember that the main goal is ratings, and the target demographic isn't knowledgeable knife makers and blade smiths, but anyone and everyone else. They're certainly going to edit in some drama into the show, and likely edit out some of the more "technical" aspects that most of us would love to see or hear about, as it just isn't going to be interesting to most "reality tv" consumers.
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That way they knew the spear chucker machine would work.
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One thing it has done is brought people who had no idea that blade smiths still exit. And I hope it will spur people to seek out blade smiths.
I would love to see 4 master blade smiths compete.
I would love to see 4 master blade smiths compete.
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Very happy for Pete Winkler last night, I've met him a few times and he is a really cool, down to earth guy.
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Haha, that's been bothering me too. I just can't seem to see the obvious link between cars and knives.
Is it something American? [emoji6]