Forget strider or hinderer, get a pretium!

ooitzoo said:
Not to be contrary but it looks like a fairly generic Flipper Ti Framelock.

What sets this apart?
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Perfect HT elmax and lock bar insert made from same elmax stock, hoback rolling detent, perfect tolerences, hand ground blades.

Its not so much that it sets it apart, just that it will be a beast of a knife. I actually kind of like how subdued it looks.
 
Murdamook said:
That's great that your experiences dictate otherwise. There are plenty of people who have snapped blades before fracturing the g10. Either way, the core of the argument stays intact: g10 is incredibly strong and shouldn't be considered a weakness when speaking on over-sized pivots. Don't use patronizing memetic pictures in an effort to defeat an argument when your counter argument is based on your personal experiences and absolutely no one else's.
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Have you ever snapped steel, before snapping g10? Because if you're going to argue against his experiences I'd like to know that you have a personal experience that says otherwise. If that's not the case you really are in no position to argue.
And if the blade snaps it really doesn't matter how big your pivot is. And if you think about it, the blade is more likely to snap WITH a bigger pivot, since there's less steel around that pivot.
 
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vdub pretty much nailed it on why its such a beast of a knife.

I'm #4 on the list and have been a huge fan of Elliot's for a long time.

I cannot wait to receive mine as I know Elliot's workmanship and know the passion he puts into making knives.

Yes it's a more low key looking flipper but I love that it is, and it all comes down to personal preference in the end.

But anyone who's curious about FerrumForge and or the Pretium should def go check out his YouTube channel and ull get a much better idea.

For the price he's charging, you really can't beat it at all.

Just my .02
 
I'm glad Vdub explained some of the things that do set the Pretium apart. I actually really love the understated design. I'm #70 and couldn't be more excited to get some Elliot's work in my hands.
 
I think this post has slowly devolved into a bash fest contest between the Hinderer and Strider vs. the Pretium. I think it would have served the knifemaker and the knife better if it were a simple post introducing the knife to fellow enthusiasts instead of an immediate jab at two high value and iconic knives. Instead, from all the recent posts I've been reading, people are started to take sides either for or against and nitpicking the strengths and "flaws" or weaknesses in each design.

Overall, I think it's a really nice knife, just not my cup-o-tea. :-)

OP, post some pics when you get her in hand.
 
Murdamook said:
That's great that your experiences dictate otherwise. There are plenty of people who have snapped blades before fracturing the g10. Either way, the core of the argument stays intact: g10 is incredibly strong and shouldn't be considered a weakness when speaking on over-sized pivots. Don't use patronizing memetic pictures in an effort to defeat an argument when your counter argument is based on your personal experiences and absolutely no one else's.
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Your argument was that the blade will snap before the G10. I have no doubts that G10 is a fine handle material, and can last without steel liners. G10 has an excellent strength to weight ratio. However, the mechanical properties of G10 are nowhere near those of steel. If you need proof, take your least favorite G10 handled knife and stab it with another knife. If the blade breaks, you win. If the G10 breaks, I win. If you don't want to do that, here is a test showing the mechanical properties of G10. The highest peak stress any sample handled was 448 MPa.
http://www.nikhef.nl/pub/department...ts_information/G10_compressive_properties.pdf
 
I too didn't understand what the knife did better than others, but Vdub mentioned most of the top features...I will, however, dispute the 'perfect tolerances' part because I don't know that it will be to the level of something like the Sebenza and Elliot doesn't have all the top tools/experience yet to take advantage of some of the equipment he already owns. He's basically beginning his career unlike most of the names more commonly spoken of. The good news is that it means he can take what they've done well and adapt it. The SM-100 non-steel alloy is something I may have him use for me in a future blade if I like the Pretium. Looking forward to seeing the blade with the maker's mark/logo.
 
The pocket clip and lockbar are too small compared to the rest of the knife, which looks fat. The whole knife just looks "off", for lack of a better word, and I'm not a fanboy of any maker.
 
This thread has seemed kind of fishy to me from in the beginning tbh, it seems to me like a shameless plug.

why didn't you just introduce the knife to begin with instead of pretending to be a long time unbiased lurker?
 
Sorry Monger, just introducing myself before expressing my excitement for my new knife.... As you can see, I've been a member for years but haven't felt a desire to post until now.

I understand the thread title might have been a little inflammatory, and I apologize to those I might have offended.... I may have been a little over zealous.... In hindsight, the title would be different. I wanted to start a discussion about the knife and hear from others waiting for theirs, and get some opinions from fellow BF members. Nothing fishy about that!
 
No need to apologize to me. That's my gut reaction regarding this thread, and I'm sticking with it. Just due to the initial post, the amount of times its been edited, and what I see as spokesmanship.

my apologies, if I'm wrong, but I don't believe I am.
 
bearguide said:
The pocket clip and lockbar are too small compared to the rest of the knife, which looks fat. The whole knife just looks "off", for lack of a better word, and I'm not a fanboy of any maker.
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It can be ordered with a milled ti clip, his prototype had that clip on it. It is much nicer IMO vs the standard clip. Only adds 30 bucks, which in all honesty he should have just priced it 30 bucks higher and not even mentioned a "standard" clip.
 
A bigger pivot prevents blade play and slop, its not necessarily just for strength. A huge blade will stress a small pivot over time.
 
extrastout said:
A bigger pivot prevents blade play and slop, its not necessarily just for strength. A huge blade will stress a small pivot over time.
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I think there are limits as to how small a pivot can be, but this design is likely just fine with what it has. It's one of those things that sounds more accurate than it really ends up being in reality.
 
Well I'm excited to get mine. I am #95, I really like Elliot's work so far in his short career and wanted to support him. For the features the knife has as well as being done mostly by hand the price point could have been a good bit higher. Also there are only 100 of these and I'm sure the secondary market will be crazy for this one, maybe not who knows.
 
DR.BOOM said:
Well I'm excited to get mine. I am #95, I really like Elliot's work so far in his short career and wanted to support him. For the features the knife has as well as being done mostly by hand the price point could have been a good bit higher. Also there are only 100 of these and I'm sure the secondary market will be crazy for this one, maybe not who knows.
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I think i am number 64, it cant come soon enough. I am just happy to help out an up and coming artist.
 
I am #62. And I can't wait. great build solid and well thought out...... And his vids are interesting!
 
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