Fox Knives Problem...

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If you are considering the purchase of a Fox knife, specifically the folding Karambit, please read this first; you may want to save up for an Emerson.
About six months ago I bought a Fox Knives folding karambit with aluminum scales. When it arrived I was ecstatic; this knife is beautiful and lightening fast when waved out of the pocket. But then I realized that the pocket clip came with some side-to-side play. I checked the screws and realized that they were tight, the problem was that the three holes in the pocket clip are drilled wider than the screws, thus side-to-side play.
I didn't put too much worry into it and carried it for almost months, using it very lightly: sharpening a pencil three times and pruning off a couple dozen small branches off of some saplings in Tree I.D. class. In January I realized that the screws somehow stripped out and were of no use. This is when I contacted Fox Knives.
I initially conversed with a very polite person named Harmony, who instructed me to send it in with an explanation of what's wrong, a print out of our emails and a return address. All of these things I did, with delivery confirmation (received Jan. 22), then I heard nothing for a little over a month.
I then got a little nervous. I did spend $125 for this thing, which is a chunk of change for a knife that isn't properly constructed IMHO.
I sent two unanswered emails, then called the service department with no answer, and finally got a hold of somebody in customer service. This person was very polite as well and she told me she would find out what the deal was.
I immediately got an email from somebody named Roland in the repairs department consisting of this: "We are ready to ship your knife back to you. May I please collect your address? Thank you."
I gave them my address, again, and asked him if he was able to fix it, response: "Yes I re tapped the screw holes and put American 2-56 thread screws to hold the clip for you. Please let me know that you receive it. Thank you!"
That was on March 7. On the 25th of March I sent them another email telling them that I have run out of patience and need an explanation ASAP as to why the hell my knife isn't in my hand yet where I get this response: "Thank you for your email. I repaired your knife for you already… unfortunately your package was held in shipping awaiting an address confirmation. I just pushed it through for you and I am sorry about the hold up. You should be receiving it soon. Thank you for your patience. Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions or concerns."
Today is 28 March, it finally came back to me today. The original screws were black with a flat head, pretty slick looking. The replacement screws are shiny-as-hell chrome with rounded head, super-freakin-goofy looking!
The whole knife has a mat finish in various shades of gray, this made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
On top of that, it sat neglected for so long getting "repaired" that the blade has some light corrosion. Pretty pissed about this.
There are plenty of knife companies out there that I do business with, this one will not be making any more of my money.
I hope that if you have to send a knife in to Fox Knives for repairs (and if you bought one of their folding karambits, you will) you have more patience than I.
 
Write/Call them and insist on a replacement or refund....
Actually, when I confronted Roland about the shoddy work he basically told me he did a great job and the knife is fine. He then offered to replace it if I sent it in, but I have absolutely no confidence at all that they would carry through without a whole lot more crap to deal with.
I'm also pretty sure that if they did replace it the replacement would be as defective as my original and would have to be sent in for repairs.
I got it on ebay so I doubt they would refund the purchase amount.
 
"Nope. No problems with the knife or the CS."
Did the pocket clip have any side-to-side play at all? Just curious. The G10 scaled might have slightly different screw specs than the aluminum model, not sure.
Also, without trying to sound rude or nosy, did you have a problem with another Fox knife? I'm just trying to figure out why one would have to contact customer service without having a problem with something.
 
I had the same problem with the G10 scales, I ended up permanently securing them down with jb weld...
 
Fox knives, extrema ratio, molleta, are all interconnected. My view is that their karambit is they worst model.
Molleta and other italianas designers have created very nice knives, with similar traits: Better than average steel, micarta or Better handles, strong locks, and an effort on The Fit and finish area.
Also, they are more on The tactical side...
Well, their karambit is to me their less original model. It's very similar to emerson's.
When you say that It has a poor clip, well, It makes sense to me. Because almost all their other most famous and original designs use sheaths, even in folders.

That being said, their custom service obviously is flawed.
 
The fox karambit is a horrible horrible knife. When I ordered it the site said it was in stock but took over 3 months for me to get it. When I first got it I loved it but after some carry and use one of the screws on the clip fell off while clipped to my pocket so now it's wiggly as hell. I cut some cardboard boxes and branches and othe stuff and the weak tip chipped so now it's dull. And I did a super light spine whack test just out of curiousity and it failed the first time. Even my mantis karambit did better. Way better. Stay away from this sorry ass knife.
 
I had the same problem with my G-10 model, total disappointment, and while being drilled and tapped on both sides one side is just as bad as the other.
 
Wow! I had no idea this company was such a flawed one. They do make some pretty blades, though.
Thank you everyone for your responses; it's good to know I'm not alone, even though it's rather unfortunate that we all spent our money on a P.O.S.
Hopefully this thread will dissuade other forum members from buying their crap.
 
Wow! I had no idea this company was such a flawed one. They do make some pretty blades, though.
Thank you everyone for your responses; it's good to know I'm not alone, even though it's rather unfortunate that we all spent our money on a P.O.S.
Hopefully this thread will dissuade other forum members from buying their crap.
Or it will persuade th company to improve and reevaluate their processes.
 
To all of you who posted re the problems with this knife, thank you very much for sharing your experience. I was about to pull the trigger on one with aluminum handles on eBay today. I am indebted.
 
I don't have any experience with the Fox Karambit but I did buy a Deimos off the forum here that led to dealings with Fox customer service. The knife came with some problems caused by a previous owner. A buggered pocket clip and some chips in the wood scales. I emailed them asking to purchase a new clip and set of scales and Roland replied promptly saying he would like me to send it in. I fully expected to pay for the clip and offered to pay for a replacement set of grips. I sent the knife off and a week later I got an email from Roland saying that he was sending me a brand new knife at no charge. I received a brand new flawless Deimos not long after. This was my only interaction with their service dept but it was the best CS experience I've had with any knife company.
 
I currently have the FOX 479, 478, (for 3 years) and the newer FOX 599 Black G10 & 599-TK Orange Trainer (for almost 2 years) and I have NEVER had any issues with the screws falling out. I had one screw come loose a bit, but since I put a little Loctite (Thread Locker Blue 242), I've had NOT ONE PROBLEM with it since and that was over a year ago. All I'll say is that you need to always check your knife at least once a month and lube it (if you're frequently using it). I use one drop of Tuf Glide (from Sentry) on the apex of the blade and I have a Torx screwdriver to check the tautness of the screws to make sure they're tightened, but NOT too tight (as screws may strip, and that can happen with ANY knife manufacturing company). I also own and check my Emerson Combat Karambit that I own as well.

By the way I got my FOX 599 Karambit at the only place you can get them. Since I can't leave the website link all you have to do it just Google: FOX 599 Karambit and you'll find it. Only one person here in the states sells them anyway. Sure I had to wait 2 months, but MAN it was well worth the wait and just as good as the Emerson Kbit. Also, I understood the Terms & Conditions, since I took the time to read the information BEFORE I purchased, whereas others don't and then complain saying: "Where's my order?" Knowing what I have, even if I had to wait for 3 months, it's worth it. These FOX 599 Kbits knives are amazing!!! A knife (to me) is just like a hand gun, you have to make sure it's always working and ready for use. Just my thoughts on it.
 
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I currently have the FOX 479, 478, (for 3 years) and the newer FOX 599 Black G10 & 599-TK Orange Trainer (for almost 2 years) and I have NEVER had any issues with the screws falling out. I ad one screw come loose a bit, but since I put a little Loctite (Thread Locker Blue 242), I've had NOT ONE PROBLEM with it since and that was over a year ago. All I'll say is that you need to always check your knife at least once a month and lube it (if you're frequently using it). I use one drop of Tuf Glide (from Sentry) on the apex of the blade and I have a Torx screwdriver to check the tautness of the screws to make sure they're tightened, but NOT too tight (as screws may strip, and that can happen with ANY knife manufacturing company). I also own and check my Emerson Combat Karambit that I own as well.

By the way I got my FOX 599 Karambit at the only place you can get them. Since I can't leave the website link all you have to do it just Google: FOX 599 Karambit and you'll find it. Only one person here in the states sells them anyway. Sure I had to wait 2 months, but MAN it was well worth the wait and just as good as the Emerson Kbit. Also, I understood the Terms & Conditions, since I took the time to read the information BEFORE I purchased, whereas others don't and then complain saying: "Where's my order?" Knowing what I have, even if I had to wait for 3 months, it's worth it. These FOX 599 Kbits knives are amazing!!! A knife (to me) is just like a hand gun, you have to make sure it's always working and ready for use. Just my thoughts on it.

Dude you gotta make it a little less obvious that you work for "The Ultimate Knife". 1 post and you just joined this month to espouse a product only carried by one retailer? I don't think anyone's gonna buy that story.
 
Dude you gotta make it a little less obvious that you work for "The Ultimate Knife". 1 post and you just joined this month to espouse a product only carried by one retailer? I don't think anyone's gonna buy that story.

I own all of these knives have been a fan of quite a few Kbits over the years and so far the one I like the most is the FOX 599 Kbit & Emerson Combat Kbit. So it doesn't matter to me what you do or don't "buy," I'm just giving MY thoughts about it. I thought that's what this forum's about... Not everything about what a couple of people on here say about it needs to be negative. These knives haven't failed on me yet and I've put these Kbits through a lot. On a side note, you don't even know me, yet you judge without discretion. You should brush up on your people skills a bit... dude...
 
I own all of these knives have been a fan of quite a few Kbits over the years and so far the one I like the most is the FOX 599 Kbit & Emerson Combat Kbit. So it doesn't matter to me what you do or don't "buy," I'm just giving MY thoughts about it. I thought that's what this forum's about... Not everything about what a couple of people on here say about it needs to be negative. These knives haven't failed on me yet and I've put these Kbits through a lot. On a side note, you don't even know me, yet you judge without discretion. You should brush up on your people skills a bit... dude...

I'd have to agree with Misanthropia. It is a bit suspicious and such being the manner of your first post, you of all people should expect this kind of response. Regardless, I always give the benefit of the doubt so perhaps you did come across this thread shortly after you joined while coincidentally having the positive experience you described with Fox karambit.

Its just the manner in which you posted, this particular scenario, the style in which you presented your experience, and the deal spotting that pulls out a few ques.
 
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