Frame Lock Folder: bronze washer won't lay flat?

they might just replace it or oven straighten it -put it this way a planing operation 4 that slab should take 10 minutes.
 
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Could it be that the knife was disassembled in the past and the stop pin is not seated all the way or perhaps assembled with the stop pin not seated completely thereby acting as a standoff that is too long?
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
Is the knife smooth? Does anything feel wrong when you open and close it? It might in fact be more smooth because thee is less contact with the blade and therefore less friction. If it were me and it didn't seem to effect function of the knife I would probably use it if that is what I bought it for and soon enough I would forget about it. If its a collector or your the type of person that let's something bug you then go ahead and at least call them to see what they say. On a $400 knife you should be happy and the company should be willing to make you happy. I've got a similar priced knife that wasn't perfect but I knew I was going to use it and I kept it because I didn't want to go without and wanted to use (and play :) with it.

If you think it will constantly bother you then get it taken care of because you have to live with it, not us.

Out of curiosity do they allow disassembly of their knives and do you feel comfortable taking it apart? You could pull it apart and see if the scale is flat by putting a straight edge on it. If it is flat and uses stand offs maybe try switching them around and maybe one will be more narrow and fix the problem. Not knowing the knife makes it hard to suggest a possible solution assuming you aren't opposed to tinkering with it yourself.
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Honestly, I never inquired if it was okay to remove the one side/Titanium scale, removing a couple/few Torx screws is all that was required....very easy stuff. I'm very comfortable removing a few screws as I work on and solder fragile electronic parts all day long.

I should have but a square on the scale to see it it was truly flat but I didn't think of it at the time and I don't want to start taking the knife apart again. I'm sure they wouldn't mine that I wiped the washers clean, re-lubed and put them back in but I wouldn't want to keep trying trying to find a fix it on my own if it may be returned.

Its my opinion that at least one of the Ti slabs is off "just a tad" and that is torquing the pivot bolt just enough to prevent the washers from making contact with both the blade and the Ti slabs. Like I said if I squeeze the slabs together just a bit along the back middle of the scales it makes the washers and slabs meet perfectly... i.e. I think it bows out just a hair.

I know that it sounds a bit silly but this knife was a gift to myself and the most expensive folder I've ever purchased. I was involved in an accident/crash on the highway while riding my motorcycle (I was Bayflighted) and it's been a long and difficult road back to a somewhat normal life again. I was VERY lucky to be wearing my helmet that day....the only day that week I did wear one but there was rain in the forecast and in Florida the rain can feel like bee strings. <grin>

Anyway....$400 is a lot of money for me to spend on a knife but in a somewhat selfish way I felt like I deserved it. Don't we all for one reason or another? I just don't want to be a pain in the ass to the store I bought it from. If nearly $400 was was a drop in the bucket to me I'm sure that I would be bothered less by it.

Thanks.
 
Reeek said:
Could it be that the knife was disassembled in the past and the stop pin is not seated all the way or perhaps assembled with the stop pin not seated completely thereby acting as a standoff that is too long?
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I doubt that it had been taken apart before shipping out NIB to me, I did check when I cleaned the washers and the stop pin and standoffs were fully inserted into the Ti slabs. I think it is just a fluke....can happen to anyone.
 
they know they (the makers) let flaws go out their doors. Store? Arent u thinking about dealing directly with the maker? Make a deal with them. There is a book called "you can negotiate anything".
 
It's not about what you deserve or don't deserve and/or whether or not 400 dollars means less to someone that has more money. You're not happy. At the 400 dollar price point you should have a knife you have no complaints about. If you're so worried about being a bother maybe you deserve what you get. Dude life is too short. Go back to the dealer and get one you are happy with and don't feel bad. I'm sure the dealer is not losing any sleep over the profit he made from the sale to you. The knife you have will always bother you. Good luck with your dilema.
 
apparently there are things that are more important than personal gratification to the original poster and that is a rare and admirable trait. :thumbup:
 
Just an aside. If it is a sebenza we are talking about, then you should NOT have loctited the pivot screw. With nothing to catch on the female part of the will just spin when you try to tighten or untighten the pivot screw........in other words it will be a major pain in the azz! I would call the company, or individual and ask for a new set of washers.
 
With my glasses on and under the light I can see that there is "just" enough space around the stop pin to allow the scales to meet if squeezed with two fingers and that does eliminate the space between the Ti scale and half of the washer that's not touching.

I think that the Ti scale and or scales being just a hair wide at the stop pin is torquing the pivot just enough to prevent both the washers and the scales to make full contact. I don't believe that I described it clearly enough at first and this lead to some thinking that it was a bent washer.

Is it safe to say when opening the box of a new knife for the first time that we ALL check to see if the blade is centered, check for blemishes on the finish, check the grind and see how if feels to open and close the new knife? I usually look to see the type of washers they've chosen to use, some of mine have bronze, some Teflon but this is the first time I've noticed the washers not laying flush against the blade and the scales on both sides.....it's very possible that I may have missed it on a less expensive knife.

Thanks guys, I TRULY appreciate all the feedback.
 
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I know that it depends on how much you've spent but on your better folders do you inspect them pretty thoroughly when they first arrive or do you simply check to see if the blade is close to being centered and no screws are missing? <grin>

I've seen many reviews here but I've never asked what others check on their knife as soon as they take it out of the box.
 
its a matter of taste and there aint no accounting for it. We all have our own approaches to evaluating our new blades. Me i go by performance primarily, F+F are important then lastly cosmetics. Now the VALUE of a knife in the reflection of cost + performance et al i leave judging that to the long run.
 
your situation with your knife has an F+F issue wich is ALSO a cosmetic issue and is possibly a performance issue AS WELL.
 
TheCarbideRat said:
hey OP just checking in ~have you made any decisions yet?
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Thanks for asking, I did contact the manufacturer and they sent me a new knife overnight and just asked that I send the other knife back once the new one arrived. They handled it very, very well. This was the most I'd ever spent on a folder so when I first gave it the once over to make sure all was fine I was probably more picky than I would have been on a knife under $200 but I'm pretty sure that most of us (not all) get a little picky once we get to the $400 and up price point and beyond. I have no complaints at all with how well this company handled the situation......I was not expecting a replacement to be shipped over night. It's nice to know that there are some really good/honorable people out there running some of these knife companies. :thumbup:

Take care,
-Kevin
 
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