Frame Lock Question

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V44

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Besides Chris Reeve's, Bob Dozier's dual integral, and the Benchmade 750 Pinnacle, what other frame locking knives are available? I am trying them all before making up my mind.

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CRKT makes one, saw a picture of it in the AG Russell catalog.
Handled one at a gun and knife show and thought it was all handle and small blade.
Made in Taiwan.
 
Originally posted by e_utopia:
Elishewitz makes some integrals
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I took a look at the Elishewitz site, thanks.
Are his monolocks the same as a frame lock? I am uncertain about the definitions of the terminology. It was difficult to tell my looking at the posted pictures how the locks on some of the Elishewitz knives functioned.
 
Originally posted by ThomM:
CRKT makes one
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I looked over the Columbia River site, and I think it is the KISS that has the integral lock. The description says the lock is part of the frame and handle, but this knife has only a single handle on one side. When the blade is closed it is still exposed. I wonder if it can get caught on the material of a pocket? Any clue?
 
Yes, Elishewitz's monolock is an integral lock, frame lock, whatever you want to call it. The CRKT K.I.S.S. and P.E.C.K. are both integrals. I've never heard of one getting caught on someone's pocket, but I don't own one, so I can't say for sure (but I think there would be some irate posts here, if it was a problem).

--JB

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The other CRKT that is a frame lock is an S-2. I handled one and it seemed nice. I have a BM 750 and carry it nearly daily. I'd like to see more companies make frame locks, but I doubt I will as new locks come out such as the axis, rolling, arc lock and others.
 
Darrel Ralphs Apogee.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA
 
If you want a good look at a selection of Elishewitz Integrals, take a peek at KnifeArt. The little blue Persian with wood inlay is a stunner, the Bolster Lock is a solid piece of work.

I have owned integrals by all the makers listed so far except the Dozier. What are your wants and needs? I would be happy to make a recommendation if you could give me a little more information.

Best of luck.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA
 
Ken Voth of Newton, Ks makes an integral lock. Although his knives aren't in the same quality range as an Elishewitz, he does have potential. His knives are also very fairly priced. His phone number is (316)283-5397.
 
Good call stjames. That Elishewitz blue Persian with wood inlay is BEAUTIFUL. What are his Integrals like ? On a par with the Sebenza ?

JD
 
Lamedos,

Of the knives and makers I am familiar with listed here so far, Elishewitz is the only one who I would consider to be on a par with Chris Reeve Knives. High praise indeed.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA
 
Thanks stjames, thats what I figured. I like his stuff alot. I really wanted to get a Diablo but unfortunately didnt realise there was only going to be 25 made. I thought I had plenty of time to pick one up. Oh well.

I'm contemplating buying an Elishewitz as a 20th birthday present for myself (May), or taking that extra money to the Blade Show. I dont know which. There might be other stuff at the show and I dont know what to expect as its my first one. I really like the afformentioned Persian as well as the Snakewood Shadow on Knifeart.

JD
 
Originally posted by stjames:
What are your wants and needs? I would be happy to make a recommendation if you could give me a little more information.
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Thanks StJames. I looked at the Elishewitz blue Persian and it certainly is a handsome knife. What I am looking for is a utility carry pocket knife. My first liner lock knife was a Buck Crosslock that I carried in the belt sheath provide with it. Until then I pretty much carried a scout or SAK multiblade. Then I moved to a Leatherman. Trouble is I don't alway wear a belt, but I generally alway have a front pocket. The scout and SAK knives leave a lump in my pocket that I no longer care for after some 50 years of carrying them. So I am retiring them.

I want a general purpose blade and I favor drop points over clip points. I also favor liner locks over lock backs for the ease of one-handed closing, but the monolock or frame lock I favor over the liner lock because it seems in principal simplier in design, sturdier, and less subject to wear.

Titanium handles appear to me a solid and modern way to go as far as utility and practicality.

Because this would be my everyday carry into the foreseeable future, and because of legal constrictions in cities, towns, and airports where I would likely find myself, I tend to favor an under 3" blade, non-serrated, flat ground rather than hollow ground.

Knives I have been considering include the Dozier and the small Sebenza (classic). Knives I appreciate include the Wegner Jr., the Spyderco Calypso Jr. Lightweight, and the Dragonfly Carbon Fiber, although none of these meet the abovementioned requirements, they are my second choice, especially where price is a consideration.

I realize any of these would be a fine choice and I wish I could have them all. The Sebenza is about the maximum I could spend, and I probably wouldn't have considered going this high had I not read so much praise about it or had I not handled on and met Mr. Reeve at the NY Show last week. I did not jump at the small plain Sebenza he had right there on his table, so I am being patient.

Undoubtedly there will come along another knife that I will one day want as my everyday carry, but for now I would like make my decision based on what I learn here.

I did the same thing with a non-folder a month or so ago and decided on a Fallkniven F1 in a Kydex sheath, which I am happy with. However, I probably would have been more pleased with a thinner blade, such as an A.G. Russell Deerhunter or a Spyderco Moran, and so might trade in the near future.

I think that more than covers the topic.

Thanks again for your reply and I look forward to hearing what you have to say.
 
S&W makes a frame lock, the model 3500.

Survivor makes some frame locks as well, though I don't know if they sell any
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V44,

It is too bad that Benchmade never followed up the 750 with a smaller model as promised, and I have been eyeing the Dozier myself, good size and profile.

From your description and preferences, the Small Sebenza would be a great choice for you. For quality, reliability and ease of maintenance, it is hard to beat. Since you have the patience, the “Classic” should be well worth waiting for, a small workhorse good for most any situation.

Have fun deciding!


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James Segura
San Francisco, CA
 
Originally posted by stjames:
Have fun deciding!
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Deciding is a goodly portion of the fun aspect indeed. A few years back I thought I had all the fun I needed with my purchase of a Benchmade 3500. It satisfied a lot of my wants at the time: auto, classic Fairbairn/Sykes design, affordability, easy carry. Alas, the more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.

I saw and handled the Dozier dual integral Ti D2, and met Mr. Dozier and his wife, both of whom couldn't have been kinder or more helpful. The knife itself seemed too simple to be true, but I have lived and learned.

Thanks for all your consideration. Your thoughfulness and understanding are appreciated.

 
Mike Lamprey!

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"A man's got to know his limitations." - Dirty Harry
 
Originally posted by Brian_Turner:
Mike Lamprey!
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Searched Lamprey, found his address in an earlier post of yours and emailed my sister who lives in London and her husband, and they will contact him for me and "see" what he has available, but I "think" he is out of my price range. Your Lamprey, however, is a stunning work of art. Thanks for your post.

 
Mike makes his trademark folder in a variety of materials, for both handle and blade (including Stellite, for whoever that was who asked in a different thread...). The Damasteel/Ti version is at the top end for price, but he makes the majority of his knives as users.

He's been "in the process" of building and equipping a shop to go full time, and should be able to work faster and cheaper now.

Thanks for the complement! My second should be on the way any time now...

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"A man's got to know his limitations." - Dirty Harry
 
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