Fred Perrin abusing a Cold Steel triad lock knife

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mongomondo

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I just happened across this video. It looks like Cold Steel really has a winner on their hands with this new lock design. Andrew Demko did a great job. I don't understand French, but it looks like Perrin is impressed with the Lawman. Can anyone translate?

In case you don't know, Fred Perrin is a respected knife designer

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He said that he's been using these knives for about a year and has thrown them over a 1000 times in the last six months and never seen the lock fail and still has absolutely no blade play. He basically said that he was really impressed.
 
mongomondo said:
I just happened across this video. It looks like Cold Steel really has a winner on their hands with this new lock design. Andrew Demko did a great job. I don't understand French, but it looks like Perrin is impressed with the Lawman. Can anyone translate?

In case you don't know, Fred Perrin is a respected knife designer
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Yes indeed, he is the daddy of the Spyderco StreetBeat!
 
even tho many people do'nt care for lynn thompson, he has always produced some great products & still continues to have some really good stuff mixed in with some mediocre items. this is true of many companies.i would be one of the 1st to dislike his videos but at the same time i remember he stareted the tanto craze & his trailmaster set the standards for many that followed.
 
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Of "adapting" John Permar's design. At least John got paid before they "adapted" his design.

CS makes some interesting looking knives, but the sleeze factor kills my interest.
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no, it was all my design, when my patent was pending John Permar approched Cold Steel with his newly granted patent, LT made an agreement with John. I don't know what that was. I think John was trying to sell his patent to any cutlery company, and rightly so. Lt did not want any competetion with others and knew that securing John's patent and then getting ours allowed would be the safest thing to do. We did our patent search for the tri-ad over a year earlier. However Permar's did not come up because it was "pending" and pending patents are not accessible.
 
mongomondo said:
In case you don't know, Fred Perrin is a respected knife designer
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I really like his neck bowie

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And I'm very interested in the spyderco PTT folder

http://spydercollector.wordpress.co...roduction-prototype-video-fred-perrin-folder/

http://spydercollector.wordpress.co...et-2010-report-–-prototype-pictures-–-part-4/
 
Fred Perrin says he uses his mini lawman since one year and has thrown it about 1000 times. He says too that the main problem when throwing a folder are the vibrations which can unlock the knife; not only he has not seen the mini lawman fail but the lock is still firm, without any blade play.

He has one regret about the triad lock: he didn't invent it himself.

dantzk.
 
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I am sold on the triad lock. AD you done good. Don't know who the other person is but if LT bought the patent he has no dog in the fight cause he sold it. The triad is about as fine a locking device on a folder as I have found. keepem sharp
 
I pretty much have most of the CS products that I've ever wanted (and I like a lot of their products), this new lock design has put some of their models on my buy list. I normally don't buy a knife just for the lock, but there are some designs out there that I like, and this lock pushed me over the edge!

I don't throw any of my knives, even my fixed blades, but it is certainly good to see others do it, it shows me how robust the design is.

Great job Andrew! Very impressive!
 
DemkoKnives said:
no, it was all my design, when my patent was pending John Permar approched Cold Steel with his newly granted patent, LT made an agreement with John. I don't know what that was. I think John was trying to sell his patent to any cutlery company, and rightly so. Lt did not want any competetion with others and knew that securing John's patent and then getting ours allowed would be the safest thing to do. We did our patent search for the tri-ad over a year earlier. However Permar's did not come up because it was "pending" and pending patents are not accessible.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was not aware that you were working independently on the lock design. :o

I do like your knife designs. It is just that Cold Steel's advertising seems, to me, to disrespect other makers, and that leaves me, well, cold.

Regards.
 
I'm not a fan of Cold Steels advertising or PR style, but I try not to let that get in the way of enjoying a good knife. There are very few of their products I like, but I'm truly happy with the ones I own.

A friend of mine donated a Rajah to our little knife collector group to test at our monthly meetings. We've been pounding on that poor knife for more than a year, it's still working flawlessly.

I'm looking forwards to the new Voyagers with tri-ad lock, the Lawman is a bit thick and heavy for me (and I don't like coated blades).
 
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