Free clips from Benchmade being sold on eBay

jonearlt said:
Its my listing for the $1000 clip
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I just saw your ad. That's actually a good idea. Some people may no know they can get free clips. Look how many other clips are for sale. So some may think why not an authentic BM clip?


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People talk about being ethical, but is it ethical to call BM and ask for free clip that goes on a knife you don't actually own? Getting a low rider clip for a Griptilian for example? You'd have to lie to get it. (or be dishonest by omission)

I wish BM would just charge for clips, like Spyderco. I'd rather buy a clip then be deceitful about it.
 
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What's worse is that one of the things that yells out "FAKE!!" on some BM knockoffs IS the clip, like with the Infidel- so if someone adds one to a fake it makes it that much harder.. :(
 
aquaman67 said:
I just saw your ad. That's actually a good idea. Some people may no know they can get free clips. Look how many other clips are for sale. So some may think why not an authentic BM clip?


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People talk about being ethical, but is it ethical to call BM and ask for free clip that goes on a knife you don't actually own? Getting a low rider clip for a Griptilian for example? You'd have to lie to get it. (or be dishonest by omission)

I wish BM would just charge for clips, like Spyderco. I'd rather buy a clip then be deceitful about it.
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You don't have to lie or be deceitful. I ordered 7 various clips a couple weeks ago. I told the girl I had a few more Mini Grips coming, and what they were going on. As well as a couple that I already have, that I wanted to change.
Just be upfront about it, and don't try selling them... I don't see a problem with giving one to another member that needs one, if you have an extra.
In my mind, that is better than them calling BM for one clip, because it saves them a little time in processing, as well as not having to pay postage.
 
I emailed and asked for a clip for an Adamas, which I dont have, I told them they were for my 707 so It would ride low in my pocket. Asked for 2 they sent 3, can't beat that.

Kris,.
 
As silly as it may sound, I would prefer to sometimes purchase the clip even if they are "free". For example my 580 has the split arrow clip, I would really prefer the black clip with "BENCHMADE USA" on it. I think they just look nicer. I would feel bad requesting one just for aesthetics, so I would be more inclined to buy one rather than just ask.

That being said I would not spend some exorbitant price on it, reason why I don't have one now :p
 
jeffsenpai said:
As silly as it may sound, I would prefer to sometimes purchase the clip even if they are "free". For example my 580 has the split arrow clip, I would really prefer the black clip with "BENCHMADE USA" on it. I think they just look nicer. I would feel bad requesting one just for aesthetics, so I would be more inclined to buy one rather than just ask.

That being said I would not spend some exorbitant price on it, reason why I don't have one now :p
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I've got a Benchmade USA clip I would trade you for your split arrow. :)
 
People take advantage of others' generosity long enough and eventually it will end. I have no problem with people requesting pocketclips from BM because they prefer a certain kind, i'm sure their CS gets this a lot.
But selling them for profit when you have received them for free? I see no honor in that.
 
338375 said:
Huh ?



Why would you be more upset with the people that buy them ? Not everyone spends their free time on a knife forum, so they are unlikely to know about programs like this... The people that buy them aren't the ones that are taking advantage of a great service that is provided free to BM customers.

The fact that you are even tempted to buy fake Spyderco knives and return them to a store, doesn't say much about your character or morals... Just because others do it,, it is ok, and you are tempted ?

There will always be people that take advantage of a good thing. That will never change. I read another member that stated BM limits the free clips to 10 per year. Yes it's pure profit if they got them free, but say that they sell each one for $10, that's $100 a year, not including seller fees. Is that small of an amount really worth it ?
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338375 said:
You don't have to lie or be deceitful. I ordered 7 various clips a couple weeks ago. I told the girl I had a few more Mini Grips coming, and what they were going on. As well as a couple that I already have, that I wanted to change.
Just be upfront about it, and don't try selling them... I don't see a problem with giving one to another member that needs one, if you have an extra.
In my mind, that is better than them calling BM for one clip, because it saves them a little time in processing, as well as not having to pay postage.
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Because spending $40-50 on any clip to me is retarded especially a factory one they give out for free. Why wouldn't they just buy a new f%%%ing knife. It's ridiculus. I feel sorry for them. Any company i have a problem with one of their products i call them if it's defective or otherwise to see if i can buy parts instead of buying the whole thing new again if possible. Most companies for every type of product has some type of warranty so best just to call and see what they can do if your having problems with something. IMO

You take things too serious cowboy. Being "tempted" does not mean doing it. Only an idiot would not be tempted or a choir boy. Never done such a thing as the fake for genuine swap but it is tempting cause honestly can't afford the knives i have. A day will come that i'll have to get rid of most and even though it's a dishonest bastard thing to do,how could one not be tempted to do the swap thing if meaning getting a genuine Para for peanuts? Knowing about it and resisting the urge not to is probably the greatest sign that one has descent morals. I'm not justifing that it;s right for these c********s do this type of thing, though i do understand it. I guess to them it is worth it.

I think people getting clips for knives they don't own is a sh***y thing to do. People should have to pay for clips of knives they don't own. You people that don't own the 275/810 are hogging them all up. I have 3 275's and 1 810. Last time i asked(first and only time this year or ever asked for 10 ended up with 8 (not complaing one bit happy with that;)) Thoughhhh) for 275 clips i wanted 3 they could only send me 1 cause they were out of them. Not a big deal as only needed one for a clip that was actually damaged but still you people are taking the clips from those that actually have them. How's that for morals? I don't like having my morals/character questioned or straight up being called a theif/criminal when i didn't even commit a crime. I did nothing. If you couldn't tell I'm not condoning these people or these types of scams at all. Don't really know how you could have mistaken what i said. Many things are tempting that few actually give in to the urge to do.
 
Ulf Krogstad said:
You take things too serious cowboy. Being "tempted" does not mean doing it. Only an idiot would not be tempted or a choir boy. Never done such a thing as the fake for genuine swap but it is tempting cause honestly can't afford the knives i have. A day will come that i'll have to get rid of most and even though it's a dishonest bastard thing to do,how could one not be tempted to do the swap thing if meaning getting a genuine Para for peanuts? Knowing about it and resisting the urge not to is probably the greatest sign that one has descent morals. I'm not justifing that it;s right for these c********s do this type of thing, though i do understand it. I guess to them it is worth it. .
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When I made that comment, I never accused you of doing it. My questioning your character and morals was based on how you made the statement..

Much the same way you made a similar comment about being tempted in the above quote. I'm no choir boy, so I must be an idiot, because even knowing that I could do something as shitty as swapping a fake for a genuine product, I would not be tempted in the least.

I've been called an idiot before, so given the context of the discussion, I will happily remain one.
 
Benchmade has no rule against asking for clips of knives one doesn't own. To complain that those of us who are getting clips from the 275/810 and putting them on our other BMs are taking all the clips from you 275/810 owners is irrelevant. If benchmade didn't want it to happen it wouldn't. For me it was the difference between owning several BMs or not. No deep carry, No go. Seems like BM is making a good choice here in accommodating owners of their other knives with their perfectly executed deep carry clip.

As for dummies selling these clips? Well, a fool will be separated from his/her money.
 
Ulf Krogstad said:
I'm tempted to buy fake Spyderco knock off's and return them to a store after purchasing geniune ones after someone brought it up in a thread.
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My goodness! Why would any respectable member here even think of this! I brought this issue up in the spyderco forum when I spotted a fake PM2 at Cabela's. Some DB did exactly what you are tempted to do! Know your fakes because folks who are tempted to do this sometimes end up doing it! Thread here for those interested. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1220121-Update-Fake-PM2-at-Cabela-s
 
craytab said:
Benchmade has no rule against asking for clips of knives one doesn't own. To complain that those of us who are getting clips from the 275/810 and putting them on our other BMs are taking all the clips from you 275/810 owners is irrelevant. If benchmade didn't want it to happen it wouldn't. For me it was the difference between owning several BMs or not. No deep carry, No go. Seems like BM is making a good choice here in accommodating owners of their other knives with their perfectly executed deep carry clip.

As for dummies selling these clips? Well, a fool will be separated from his/her money.
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Could not agree more, if I couldn't get a low clip for my 707, i wouldn't have brought it, I would've stuck with a Buck that did.

Kris,.
 
338375 said:
Huh ?



Why would you be more upset with the people that buy them ? Not everyone spends their free time on a knife forum, so they are unlikely to know about programs like this... The people that buy them aren't the ones that are taking advantage of a great service that is provided free to BM customers.

The fact that you are even tempted to buy fake Spyderco knives and return them to a store, doesn't say much about your character or morals... Just because others do it,, it is ok, and you are tempted ?

There will always be people that take advantage of a good thing. That will never change. I read another member that stated BM limits the free clips to 10 per year. Yes it's pure profit if they got them free, but say that they sell each one for $10, that's $100 a year, not including seller fees. Is that small of an amount really worth it ?
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338375 said:
You don't have to lie or be deceitful. I ordered 7 various clips a couple weeks ago. I told the girl I had a few more Mini Grips coming, and what they were going on. As well as a couple that I already have, that I wanted to change.
Just be upfront about it, and don't try selling them... I don't see a problem with giving one to another member that needs one, if you have an extra.
In my mind, that is better than them calling BM for one clip, because it saves them a little time in processing, as well as not having to pay postage.
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craytab said:
My goodness! Why would any respectable member here even think of this! I brought this issue up in the spyderco forum when I spotted a fake PM2 at Cabela's. Some DB did exactly what you are tempted to do! Know your fakes because folks who are tempted to do this sometimes end up doing it! Thread here for those interested. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1220121-Update-Fake-PM2-at-Cabela-s
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Yep that would be the thread where the idea was planted. ;) Yeah you were just being a good dude Cray and pointing out that some clone Para's showed up at a Cabela's and in return certain people got it in their head that they could do the clone/real deal swap. Try doing a good thing and 1/2 the time it backfires. All this clone/scam/stealing stuff is out of control. who knows what else is actually happening out there.Though has been happening with other products too for years. You can walk into a store with an empty box and say the merch wasn't inside and they'd probably give you a refund. Been "tempted" of doing that before after i found out they would after i purchased a dvd box set and none of the disks were in it an returned it to the store and they gave me a refund. Lots of decieving thing's a person could do if they had a mind too.

Not acknowleging the ways that scams could happen is just not possible. Unless you just don't want to think about it which i understand to. Pointing out ways that you could rip off the company is a catch 22. Will give the bad guys idea's of how to rip them off but might also give the companies some ideas of how to stop them. It's just neverending..good/evil. Never stops. the OP tried doing a good thing pointing out people are making money off getting BM clips for free and selling them for good money and trying to get the attention of someone that cared enough to try to stop them. In return i guarntee some people decided to call up BM and order some clips and sell them in the same fashion while Benchmade and everyone else will be unable to stop any of it unless they stop giving out free clips.

I think Benchmade should start requiring some proof that you own at least one BM. That might stop it some but little. As long as there are people willing to buy clips these sellers get for free this will continue to happen.

I'm all for people getting any clips they choose to put on their Benchmade just saying your taking away from people that actually own that model. As far as i know i can't put any other clip's on my 275's besides the factory deep pocket ones and light get discontinued at some point. I don't use them on my Grip's (like the arrow point best) but have plenty of knives that those point clips come factory on too. 950,HK14900, ect.

338375 got nothing against you just sounded like you were calling me out as being a "bad guy" which i won't tolerate. Idiot? Absolutely not. Care to much ?Yeah probably. That type of thing will eat you from the inside out. Caring when things can't be done is complete misery. IMO. I know you guys get bored here sometimes to and are looking for the next scapegoat to call out as the "bad guy"but it ain't me.;) Didn't do anything wrong cept maybe put some idea's into peoples heads how they could do some illegal things. Like others have also, but as said they are just bringing these things to light.
 
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Ulf Krogstad said:
I'm all for people getting any clips they choose to put on their Benchmade just saying your taking away from people that actually own that model. As far as i know i can't put any other clip's on my 275's besides the factory deep pocket ones and light get discontinued at some point. I don't use them on my Grip's (like the arrow point best) but have plenty of knives that those point clips come factory on too. 950,HK14900, ect.
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And this is were the contradiction lies. The clips are free to every BM owner for any model for which they fit. Has nothing to do with what the knife came from the factory. When I got deep carry clips for my grip, rift, and 710 I told them exactly what they were for: my grip, rift, and 710. Sorry you got denied but that was probably just circumstantial, IE they were just low on clips at the time. That happened to me with ZT once.

As for some sort of proof of ownership, I agree that this would be a great way to go. Unfortunately the time it would take to enforce such a thing would probably out weigh the cost of the clips unless this whole scam became absolutely epic, which I hope it doesn't.
 
338375 said:
I remember another member saying recently that BM limits each person to 10 clips per year. I'd say that is more than generous.
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Yeah, that was me. Believe it or not, I'm at my limit already. Hopefully, I don't bend another one, as I have no spares. The deep carry clip is a weak design. Hopefully they'll consider my boys separate persons in case they bend a clip. So far so good for them.

neffarious said:
No you can't post a link its a live auction. There are actually two of them from the same guy, took all of one attempt and like 30 seconds to find it. It's not a "unicorn" its there. Are you the guy? Is that why you have such an attitude?
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Just because someone is asking $40 doesn't mean people are buying...

No one has any proof that this seller is trying to flip a ton of clips that Benchmade sent him for free. People are assuming that is what's happening. People are automatically attributing the worst motive to him without proof.

I look at it a little differently. I've taken off the normal clips when I got my deep carry clips (and I do have a 810 and my wife has a 275) and they are lying around collecting dust or getting lost/shuffled around. Some I've had for 3-4 years. They are my property. Why is it somehow wrong for me to sell my personal property? It's not my responsibility to advertise free clips for Benchmade. If a person is smart enough to buy a Benchmade, s/he's smart enough to ask Benchmade about spare clips. If they don't, that's on them.
 
A search of sold listings shows user bruceg828 has five completed auctions.

9/11
9/19
9/25
9/30
10/7

I'm sure he just happened to have 5 brand new unused deep carry clips just laying around.
 
aquaman67 said:
A search of sold listings shows user bruceg828 has five completed auctions.

9/11
9/19
9/25
9/30
10/7

I'm sure he just happened to have 5 brand new unused deep carry clips just laying around.
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Yup, 5 clips is kind of a lot. I guess the guy got 5 benchmades with deep carry clips and switched them out for regular ones or perhaps doesn't like clips at all.
 
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