Freedom of Speech and Brand Protection on Online Knife Forums

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A couple of years ago I discovered the joys of knife related forums like Bladeforums, Knifeforums, BushcraftUSA, Bristishblades, etc.

One thing I have noticed is that some manufacturer forums, like the Bark River forum in Knifeforums censor, edit and delete content that is negative towards their product, even though comments may represent the truth and be presented in a respectful manner.

As matter of fact, I've witnessed moderaters in the Bark River forum (such as Sharpshooter, aka Reid Hyken for example) bait people in order to emotionally provoke them into breaking the forum rules simply as an excuse to ban them.

One of the reason's I think this happens is that they try to protect their brand from negative exposure. Recently, Mike Stewart, owner of Bark River knives has declared in the forums that they will delete any post that contains issues or problems regarding their knives. I find this lack of transperancy disturbing, and wonder exactly what they are trying to hide. And even though a company like Bark River has a fairly decent "no questions asked" warranty policy, I'm wondering if attempting to protect their brand will end up alienating their customer base.

I would argue that it would be in the interest of both consumers and busnesses to encourage open communication in their online forums. If a product were to fail or be defective, not only can people address their problems in public, but manufacturers can also show publicly how they handle customer service. It should, and can be a win/win situation for all involved.

As a consumer, I understand that mistakes can occur and as long as its taken care of in a professional, expediant manner, that's fine. It worries me when a company tries to protect its public image by silencing the free speech those who would purchase and use their products. It seems to me the purpose of these online forums, like what I've seen Bladeforums promotes, is to encourage open and free speech, in a respectful, truthful, mutually beneficial environment.
 
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If you complain about Mike Stewart's business practices here at BF, you will catch some flak from his acolytes but BF never deletes anything.
 
Thank you for your post Jmboz, I was thinking of getting a Bark River knife.
I won't bother now, as I'd rather buy a product from a company that doesn't mind a bit of criticism.
 
Flak is only people exercising their freedom of speech, something I can respect.

I hope that people will see I'm not peronally attacking anyone. I'm using the Bark River forum policies as an example of brand protection over freedom of speech.

Personally, I like Bark River knives when they get it right. My Bravo 1 SS, Canadian Special 3V and Aurora's are some of my favorite user knives.

What I don't like is seeing ideas consored or edited in a way that misrepresents them, or deleted in the name of brand protection over freedom of speech.
 
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While I agree in spirit that companies shouldn't do this, keep in mind that when your posting on a privately owned forum, you do not have "freedom of speech".
 
In the end such editorilization only hurts the company in question. People decide they must have something to hide and word gets out.
 
An interesting topic, to be sure, but any specific examples (such as the one in the OP) will probably be considered to be cross-forum flaming, likely resulting in the closure of this thread.
 
An interesting topic, to be sure, but any specific examples (such as the one in the OP) will probably be considered to be cross-forum flaming, likely resulting in the closure of this thread.

My intention was not to flame anyone or oany comany, but to bring out a serious discussion on what I found to be a troubling topic. My apologies if anyone thinks this is a troll post.

As to the Bark River forums, I'm pointing specific policy and behavior that I think are a hinderance to freedom expression and community discourse. I'm sure with a little research and web surfing, I could find others to use.

And indeed, on a private forum the owners may do as they wish, but what does that mean about that forums long term future should people feel oppressed or that their ideas and concerns don't matter?

My fear is that by owners and moderators editing posts, my written expression and concerns could not only be taken out of context, but be manupilated in a negative way contrary to it's meaning - all to promote an organization, company or product. I don't think even journalists can change a persons direct public statements (unless to censor profanity, racists remarks) but in private forums they're allowed to change what a person says? Somehow that just feels wrong to me.
 
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If there are concerns that fair and reasonable comments are being edited out or blocked in specific manufacturer's forums, etc., I would be a little surprised but in any event there are several places here where such comments can be posted and discussed, and if worst comes to worst there is always Whine & Cheese.
I trust everyone can understand that nobody should have to tolerate unfair comments because there are always people who abuse the openness and anonymity of forums like these. Moderators sometimes err on the side of caution to make sure these forums don't degenerate and get ruined by trolls and people with a grudge, and I can see how that can be overdone. But, as I said, there are many places here where tough, but fair, comments can be made and discussed nonetheless. Just remember, you wouldn't like some anonymous internet user badmouthing your work and hurting your livelihood unfairly, so a little understanding of the other side's point of view isn't unreasonable.
Still, without commenting on the specific examples given in the OP, the OP expresses a legitimate concern.
Fair comments should be welcome. In my experience, they usually are.
 
1. Jmboz, Registered Users don't get to post in the Political Arena. Please go to http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/profile.php?do=editusergroups and change your usergroup to relect your Basic membership.

2. Your topic does not belong in the Political Arena, not being political. I am moving it to FEEDBACK.

3. Since we are not interested in cross-forum flame wars, I have closed the thread.
You really could have said the same thing without specifically naming another forum.
 
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