From the arcane world of knifemaking...

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from Milwaukeesawzall.com....

General Purpose Sawzall Blades
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Milwaukee offers two types of all purpose blades, the Wrecker Demolition blades and the Standard general blades.
The Wrecker Demolition blades are a little thicker for heavy applications such as demolition. They are designed for all purpose use to cut through wood with nails, plastics and any other application that requires a better and stronger blade.
The all purpose blades are the same as the metal all purpose blades. They contain 8% cobalt to help keep these blades sharper longer. They are made from High Speed Steel and are designed for wood with nails, plastics and more.

Milwaukee Sawzall blades, the Wrecker in particular are .062x1".....

Sorry to shine light on the arcane material used in the construction of such,ahem, cough,sputter..... "simple" knives...

Seriously, sawblade material has been used FOREVER to make knives. Wayne Goddard, and many,many others have used sawblades. I have a copy of Foxfire 4 where they use crosscut saw blades and phonograph spring steel to make knives..... I love seeing people make blades from recycled material. Good for you for finding an alternative material source.

Good knives can be made of leaf springs(generally 5160), Wire rope, saw steel, and many other recycled materials.

BMK, I have no clue why you seem to want to promote strife and friction in a community that is SO INCREDIBLY free with ALL their ARCANE knowledge....

Honestly, Bladsmith, Kevin Cashen, James Terrio, 012345679, Nick Wheeler, Salem Straub, Tai Goo, and many, many others continuously share all their knowledge to help all of us become better Bladesmiths, never holding back.
I'm very thankful that their attitudes are such that when someone like you comes along it's so out of the norm that people get offended....
 
GrizzlyBear said:
Did you see this picture?

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BMK said:
Correct photograph.
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Even if they're the same piece of steel... so what? He ground off anything useful, as been pointed out before. I'm sorry to keep beating a dead horse, but Great Scott this kind of nonsense gets me riled. There's just no place for it when so many people are making good blades, in an honest and straightforward manner.

My challenge stands.
 
GrizzlyBear said:
Did you see this picture?

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This is the only knife that he actually MAKES. The others are blanks, purchased, more than likely, from Jantz since he offers them in the steels that Jantz has begun to offer.
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Even after seeing this pic, I'm still not convinced either. Something's not right. Even if the knife is a chisel grind, judging by the picture of the finished knife I can't see how he could get that much drop in the bevel from a sawzall blade. How thick is that particular blade, anybody know? I use my sawzall very rarely and have never had a blade that thick for it.

I think it's harder to accept that the pic might be legit because of all the runaround and avoidance.
 
james terrio said:
Even if they're the same piece of steel... so what? He ground off anything useful, as been pointed out before. I'm sorry to keep beating a dead horse, but Great Scott this kind of nonsense gets me riled. There's just no place for it when so many people are making good blades, in an honest and straightforward manner.

My challenge stands.
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Yep. When sawblades are manufactured, the tooth section passes by an induction coil, which hardens only a strip in the tooth area. The back is purposely left soft to give the blade flexibility.

There is absolutely NO way to make a good knife from a traditional saw blade without rehardening it. I'm not saying a knife from an untreated saw blade won't cut stuff, I'm just saying it won't cut stuff for very long.
 
fluidsteel said:
Specifications
Blade Dimension 12"x1"x.062"
Shank 1/2 in. Universal
TPI/Grit 8 TPI
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LOL, yeah thanks:thumbup: I saw those specs in your post above only after I commented. It could be that my eyes are going bad prematurely, but I don't see how that blade could possibly have been ground from .062" stock......
 
Your forensic analysis of the photograph would be valid IF the photograph were taken dead on center with a distortion free lens. Since all lenses distort and I did make that knife from that sawzall blade, your child logic and not the Bush Baby is flawed. Also,the knife is closer to the lens than the sawzall blade. Now eric knows that closer things appear larger than things further away.

Knifemaking has gone so far past the point of diminishing return that some knifemakers have become lost. Again, my sawzall knife is not he best knife in the world - to say so would be silly. I easily made a simple knife made from simple materials that is well outside the envelope of diminishing return.

Thank you again for your comments and "analysis".
 
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BMK said:
Your forensic analysis of the photograph would be valid IF the photograph were taken dead on center with a distortion free lens. Since all lenses distort and I did make that knife from that sawzall blade, your child logic and not the Bush Baby is flawed. Also,the knife is closer to the lens than the sawzall blade. Now eric knows that closer things appear larger than things further away.

Knifemaking has gone so far past the point of diminishing return that some knifemakers have become lost. Again, my sawzall knife is not he best knife in the world - to say so would be silly. I easily made a simple knife made from simple materials that is well outside the envelope of diminishing return.

Thank you again for your comments and "analysis".
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If you had just said it this way to start with, no one would be giving you any grief. Where was this 6 pages ago?

As far as diminishing returns, I can't say I disagree in some cases. However, remember that the makers who make the most complicated stuff can also make the simple stuff. I am reminded of an article I read on Jim Hrisoulas. He makes some of the most beautiful mixed stainless and carbon steel damascus I've seen, in sword sizes, and they cost many thousands of dollars. However, if all you need is a knife to do normal cutting, the article gave prices comparable with yours, and the buyer would get a whole lot more for their money.
 
i just held a 6" rule up to my screen over the knife that is next to the sawzall blade.
if you remove the teeth on the sawzall blade, the sawzall blade would be narrower than the finished knife :eek:.
 
I like how he still hasn't addressed the fact that we called him out on using blade blanks as his own ground designs.
 
If minimal effort past your saw blade effort is a diminishing return in performance (not in profit margin), then please tell me when you'll be ready to put up a sawzall knife against a similar design from another maker.
 
GrizzlyBear said:
I like how he still hasn't addressed the fact that we called him out on using blade blanks as his own ground designs.
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He doesn't claim to make the blades. He dances around it. I still think that if you are going to use a known design (like the Bob Terzuola QCB, for example), you should state it in the description.

The way I see it, you should converse with a person on the internet no differently than you would, face to face... especially from a business perspective. If I was interested in knowing more about your knives and you bounced around the subject and quoted in Einstein in a passive agressive tone... I would take offence.


Rick
 
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