Are you for real? You come out of no where and design a knife I have been dreaming of?
Did I die and go to knife heaven?
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Are you for real? You come out of no where and design a knife I have been dreaming of?
Did I die and go to knife heaven?
Also please do consider the design where the edge is more inline with the bottom side of the handle when open. I think it looks way more professional like that.
Also while a thin slicey blade is an awesome idea please do not make the tip super thin and fragile.
I am liking this design I think the trimmed down handle with some of the spine showing would be my preference. I would say I am more partial to the 3D clip as I am just not a fan of the wire clips at least esthetically. My only concern at this point in the design is if that flipper tab is large enough to work with a strong enough detent to actually hold the blade closed.
Side note I love the idea of trying to learn CAD/3D designing any free options out there worth using and looking at?
Quick mockup. What do you guys think? I was going to play with different ways to mount it to make it a little more unique and less Spyderco-y (which isn't a bad thing, I love their clips). But for now I just threw a rough one in there to see how it looked. If I can find titanium in the size I need I could still anodized it.
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You know that I love the wire clip but if the consensus is that most people do not like it I love the knife with pretty much any clip as long as it doesn’t look like this.
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Oh one more suggestion before I forget. NO T6 or smaller screws please! T8 minimum! The reason being t6 screws seem to be very prone to having the driver recesesses strip out.
So I moved the edge down closer to the bottom of the handle when it's open with the blade still completely hidden when closed. I'll post pictures later today/tonight. I won't know until I make the first prototype if the blade will be to close to the edge of the handle in the closed position.
Yeah, the clip has always been a hard decision for me. I love the simplicity of a Spyderco style wire clip and that it's deep carry. But I like the looks of the 3D machined clip (and I thought it would be cool to hide the hardware on the inside of the handle. And I also had an idea of creating a deep carry clip that is ALSO the backspacer. So basically 1 machined piece for the backspacer and pocket clip. Decisions decisions....
As for the flipper tab, that will also be something I wont know how it feels until I prototype it. I have a couple things I can tweak in the design of the lock to change the strength of the detent. I'm sure it will take a few iterations of build, redesign, build, redesign to dial it in. But that's part of the fun!
FreeCAD is really good and there is a pretty big support community out there for it. As well as lots of instructional videos on youtube.
I like the idea of a spine mounted clip sort of like seen on the crkt swindle. The only issue is where most right handed people clip their knives in their pocket (on a pair of jeans they normally clip a tip up knife so the blade is against the seam closer to their hip, opposite the seam closer to the zipper) a spine mounted clip will make the knife sit backwards to what they typically prefer. Usually people like the blade to sit against the seam as a saftey feature.
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There are also “in line” clips mounted on the other side like the Graham Razel folders.
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In this pic below you can see how he mounted it. I don’t know how he keeps it secure.
I say just go with the machine clip. We can love the wire clip in private lol! Wire clip is polarizing!
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Please watch this video to see how the maker used a backspacer to fit a large blade in the handle while making it impossible to touch the blade.
Skip to 20 mins in to see backspacer feature.
A backspacer might help you prevent the blade from being able to be touched.
Edit to add: Sorry for hogging the thread abit, I am just super excited! All of my ideas are only for consideration and even if the knife came out as it did on the very first picture of this thread posted I would be all over it in a heard beat.
What I wanted to ask was is this going to be on bearings? My dream would be a well made phosphor bronze washer pivot which can be an outstanding smooth system. Bearings would be fine too, just make them caged bearings please! No loose bearings like IKBS.
Those clips are getting a little crazy for me haha. I've never tried the swindle or the Razel in pocket, but I know some people are into those clips. I think I'm going to stick with a 3d machined clip. I have an idea on how I want to clean it up to better match the simple lines of the knife. I'll post pictures later.
As far as bearings vs washers... it wont be loose bearings either way! I was originally going to go with caged bearings, but I'm not sure it's needed with this lock type. I'll have to look closer at those other button lock knives SpySmasher mentioned and see if they are using bearings. It might be plenty smooth on just washers. There's so many "titanium flippers on bearings" that I was planning on just doing them from the start.
Me too.I like this clip design a lot more. Super simple, has the same design cues as the knife. Still a couple things to tweak but I think this is the idea.
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I like this clip design a lot more. Super simple, has the same design cues as the knife. Still a couple things to tweak but I think this is the idea.
It's been done. Don't ask me where because my memory is crap but I was just reading about it recently.I kinda like the idea of the pin in the blade and the track in the handle has anyone done that before? I know I have seen a stop pin/thumb stud but I have always got the impression that it wasn't a stand alone stop pin.
Right now I'm using a traditional stop pin that stops the blade in the open and closed positions. But I have an idea that I'm trying where I won't need a stop pin.
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I kinda like the idea of the pin in the blade and the track in the handle has anyone done that before? I know I have seen a stop pin/thumb stud but I have always got the impression that it wasn't a stand alone stop pin.
I like that standard stop pin design the best actually as you show above.
I highly recommend you go with the stop pin. From what I have seen knives that try to use no stop pin may work at first but quickly develop blade play. I assume you are planning on having the button lock itself sort of be a psudo stop pin.
This is because a stable lock blwith a stop pin forms a triangle with its three points of contact. A triangle is a very strong shape.
The triangle is the lock, the stop pin and the pivot.
A "triangle" is a good description. I think your right that over time it could develope blade play without a stop pin. The biggest unknown for me (having never designed a knife before) is ensuring the lockup stays strong over time. Most locks (liner, frame, axis) have an angle somewhere on the lock face so the lock is forcing the blade into the stop pin. All of the button locks I've seen just drive a plunger (the button) into basically a cup on the blade. So there's not really anything forcing the blade into the stop pin .