Frozen wood vs sarsquatch. The wood won, by a lot

[REGRM16]

Now this gets straight to the point. There is no way on earth you can beat the Busse Warranty:thumbup:

Fortunately I have never needed to try out the Busse Warranty (the only thing my Custom Shop SFNO has done is seriously kill some boxes and phone books) but knowing it is there makes all the difference!

In this day and age of the "disposable goods" (vice durable goods) it is really nice to have the top dog (or in this case Hog) assure it is 100% covered!

It is interesting all of my favorite "tactical accouterments" are from companies that are run by folks with the same philosophy. My wife and I have our EDC Wilson Combat 1911s and they have always taken care of us. My favorite hunting guns are from Dakota and Heym and not that I have had many issues but they have been backed 110%. My scopes are from US Optics and Swarovski/Kahles as well as mounting stuff from Talley and LaRue. Every one of these would be considered much "higher priced" then the normal market options. In fact 99% of these purchases are also pound for pound a lot more costly then the Busse blades! You just get what you pay for.

So I think the real "Busse secret to success" is to make blades out of the best material so you can wail the snot out of them and back them with the best warranty possible! In short INFI + Jerry= Maximum Performance with no BS.

Kudos to Jerry! Now put that scotch down, step away from the computer, and go make more blades Mr. You have INFI hogs to feed!

 

[bcornelis]

All I can say is that I use my Busse's and Swamprats on frozen wood lots and havn't had a problem with edges. Lately been hacking the hell out of trees with my Bushwacker Battle Mistress.

 

[230grains]

All I can say is that I use my Busse's and Swamprats on frozen wood lots and havn't had a problem with edges. Lately been hacking the hell out of trees with my Bushwacker Battle Mistress.

Try it with a thinned out edge and get back to me.

Stock busse edges hold up great, even slightly thinner. They don't work out well when ground very thin up against very hard frozen wood. The edge held up fine against softer material, and softer wood. The frozen wood just did it in. Wrong edge for the application.

 

[rtiger2]

jerry has pretty clearly stated the nature of the warranty, and it isn't "if you think it will work it's covered". If your modification is a direct cause of a failure where the knife would have otherwise not failed with it's original stock geometry, it's not covered unless manager discretion is provided. Jerry gave the extreme example of a knife edge brought down to .005", but the qualifier of "if your modification is what broke it" still remains.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6759861&postcount=12

So If we regrind are blades from the awful factory grind, we void the warranty? If grinding a FBM to .005" is not covered, then what is the allowable range?
What is the acceptable range to insure full warranty coverage? This should be clearly statued on the website.

 

[rtiger2]

Here is an interesting point. This is prob why Busses are spoken of to be the toughest yet are also talked about as not being the sharpest out of factory. They come out with thicker factory edges because it decreases the chance of them chipping or rolling.
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Bingo. As Busse's claim to fame is "Although hardened INFI knives are 58-60 Rc we have yet been able to chip an edge." My guess is that put the hugely think edge to maintain their no-chip claim. I guess we've see the end of that though.

BTW, Before the haters pile on. I own several Busses and use them regularity, nasty edge not withstanding.

 

[Greg45]

So If we regrind are blades from the awful factory grind, we void the warranty? If grinding a FBM to .005" is not covered, then what is the allowable range?
What is the acceptable range to insure full warranty coverage? This should be clearly statued on the website.

Too many variables involved. I don't think it can be stated. Some common sense has to be used, because you might grind an edge as thin as 230 did (or thinner) and never have a problem if you never chop frozen wood.

 

[Greg45]

Bingo. As Busse's claim to fame is "Although hardened INFI knives are 58-60 Rc we have yet been able to chip an edge." My guess is that put the hugely think edge to maintain their no-chip claim. I guess we've see the end of that though.

BTW, Before the haters pile on. I own several Busses and use them regularity, nasty edge not withstanding.

Not all Busses come with "nasty" edges. I've had many Busse knives that I considered fine for what they were intended for.

 

[Ankerson]

Most of the ones I have came with very good edges on them, if I did change them it was very minor unless I wanted to go more.

 

[Lycosa]

ho-hum.

 

[rtiger2]

Hey gang!!!
That edge looks just like INFI looks when it is too thin for a high impact application. . . no biggie! Doesn't look like actual chipping. More like severe denting and ripping. If it had chipped, it would have gone right back into theinto the vise with it!!!!! Using the phr

Let's Drink!!!!!! :thumbup:

Jerry


Question: How are we to know when "INFI looks too think for high impact applications"? This would see to be very important information.

 

[Greg45]

Well, personally, I try to use a little comon sense both with how thin my edges are and also what I smack with them. :thumbup:

 

[Helle]

Here is an interesting point. This is prob why Busses are spoken of to be the toughest yet are also talked about as not being the sharpest out of factory. They come out with thicker factory edges because it decreases the chance of them chipping or rolling.

Also, i believe, as a property of metal, the colder it is the more likely it is to snap(correct me if im wrong). Perhaps the combo of your thinner/sharper edge and the constant freezing of the blade was just too much for it, maybe any steel.

My NMSFNO and CGFBM came with edges that were thick but would still take hair off my arm. They're both around 25 or so degrees now.

Pic of my CGFBM after I took a swing at a whitetails hindquarter. The Knife went clean through and hit the cement floor. I didn't even want to look at it when it happened thinking I just messed my mistress up good. I was pleasantly surprised.

Bye the way this happened after the Wisconsin gun season which is the end of November with a knife that had been in the back of a truck for 4 hours or better, it was cold.

So If we regrind are blades from the awful factory grind, we void the warranty? If grinding a FBM to .005" is not covered, then what is the allowable range?
What is the acceptable range to insure full warranty coverage? This should be clearly statued on the website.

Jerry has already said that Busse will fix any of their customers mistakes for free and always has.:thumbup:

Bingo. As Busse's claim to fame is "Although hardened INFI knives are 58-60 Rc we have yet been able to chip an edge." My guess is that put the hugely think edge to maintain their no-chip claim. I guess we've see the end of that though.

BTW, Before the haters pile on. I own several Busses and use them regularity, nasty edge not withstanding.

You're trolling.

I've found that something around 25 degrees will do anything I want, your mileage may very.

Question: How are we to know when "INFI looks too think for high impact applications"? This would see to be very important information.

 

[Amy-0]

Hey gang!!!
That edge looks just like INFI looks when it is too thin for a high impact application. . . no biggie! Doesn't look like actual chipping. More like severe denting and ripping. If it had chipped, it would have gone right back into theinto the vise with it!!!!! Using the phr

Let's Drink!!!!!! :thumbup:

Jerry


Question: How are we to know when "INFI looks too think for high impact applications"? This would see to be very important information.

Jeff,

If you have questions please feel free to call the shop...419-923-6471 Monday-Friday 9am to 5pm...you seem to have alot of questions and we will do our best to answer them for you

Or you can e-mail Jerry direct at jerry@bussecombat.com or Garth at garth@bussecombat.com

Amy-0