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G10 Integral, Anyone?
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It wasn't in the Spyderco 2015 Mid Year Supplement released on May 28, 2015 (yesterday) so I'm guessing it will probably be towards the end of the year.
It's a Taichung production and in the Mid Year Supplement it already has Positron, Mamba, Stick, Gayle Bradley 2, Myrtle, Vrango, Sprig and Proficient as upcoming!
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God, I can't wait for the Nirvana. I have wanted to get one of the custom versions for so long, but the price and the difficulty in finding one have kept me from pulling it off successfully for about a year now, so I am so glad that Spyderco will be doing this one!
I honestly wouldn't care if it was in the $400+ range either, as long as the manufacturing and the execution of the framelock in particular were done well. Hell, I'd probably even drop as much as $600 without worrying about it if I could get one of those with a steel insert, good lock geometry, and a hardened blade pin or stop, especially if they release these in S90V like that prototype.
I've paid more for quality machining, and I would still pay much more for a full custom version.
I love the looks of that nirvana also! The only thing that doesn't look 100% right is the pocket clip. On a knife of that quality it should have a nicer clip, not something you find on every other spyderco. Maybe that will be changed before it's put into production.
600.00 would put it out of my self imposed limit. I just can't rationalize 600 for a pocket knife no matter how nice it is. 400.00 is about my max and I wouldn't say I'm comfortable with that. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying there's anything wrong with someone spending 600. for a pocket knife just that it's wrong for me.
Mike
600.00 would put it out of my self imposed limit. I just can't rationalize 600 for a pocket knife no matter how nice it is. 400.00 is about my max and I wouldn't say I'm comfortable with that. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying there's anything wrong with someone spending 600. for a pocket knife just that it's wrong for me.
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That's a pre-production model so the clip may well be 'what they had on the shelf'.....There were a number of similar 'not quite there yet' details on many of these photos.
....I was one the lucky few at the Amsterdam meet and got to handle this beauty- it's a work of art.
If that price prediction turns out to be accurate I may buy it, but I'll feel uncomfortable 
Mike
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I would really like to see a full machined clip for this one, even if it might push the cost a little higher. If nothing else, I do have some people I know who are very good at machining. If I have to spend a little more and send them my knife for a little while so it can have a machined pocket clip (with hidden screws if I could make it happen), I would do it in a heartbeat for this one
Did you see what the lock geometry was like on their prototype? Did they use a steel lock insert?
It's much more relevant to me on this model than it would be on their other ones since the integral nature of this design makes repairing or maintaining the lock much different, and while I know Spyderco has a great warranty service, I don't really dive for a knive that would need an entirely new frame made if the lock were to wear prematurely (which is not unheard of when working with S90V on titanium, even in customs with very good lock geometry to start), and I don't think it would be a good design idea for them given the natural inconsistency in large-scale production, even in a facility like they have in Taiwan with extreme good QC.
I think you are probably right, and I bet it still sells like hot cakes for them, with myself included in the dash to get one
I don't usually rush for new knives or fight to get a new release, but I might for this one. Again, I really want to see how they handle to lock in particular, and that might be the only thing that would slow me down.
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If that price prediction turns out to be accurate I may buy it, but I'll feel uncomfortable
Mike
If it's anything even vaguely like the custom Nirvana I've handled (and I mean at all), then you won't feel uncomfortable once you have used the knife at all, trust me.
Spyderco does a very good job on S90V from what I remember as well, so this should prove to be an amazing EDC if you like long-lasting, fine-toothed edges!
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No lock bar insert in this production prototype picture of Nirvana also showing the integral frame.
Man, Spyderco needs to nail that lockbar then if you ask me. I don't think it would be a problem on most of the models, but people would be bound to run into rapid lockbar wear from time to time and since that handle doesn't have a stop-pin for the blade besides the frame itself, repairing that lock interface would require redoing the entire frame or blade, and either way, that is a lot of work, even if it would be a pretty rare problem (which we can only hope would be the case).
But you never know. They might take the little extra step to carbidize the lock faces, or do something else to prevent the wear.
And on a side note, I wouldn't be terribly opposed to that clip, because it makes it pretty easy to make a machined one since the holes for the screws would be regular
How amazing would this knife be if the only screw visible on the entire knife was the pivot, and everything else was entirely hidden or not needed because of the integral design? Oh, I really hope I can make that happen
And man, that knife is awesome no matter what angle I look at it from!
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Actually, wait. It looks like there is a cutout in the frame behind the place where the blade would hit the stop pin.
Maybe there is a hidden stop pin in this knife or something? Or it might be something they have to do for manufacturing purposes, but either way, there was a hole cut there at one point and then put back for sure.
And it's only on the non-show side of the knife...hmmmm.
Maybe there is a hidden stop pin in this knife or something? Or it might be something they have to do for manufacturing purposes, but either way, there was a hole cut there at one point and then put back for sure.
And it's only on the non-show side of the knife...hmmmm.
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It appears in the photo to not have a steel lockbar insert. I'm bummed about that. My Spyderco Sage 2 has been with me for almost 2 years now and my lockbar is really really chewed up. I even find the Sage to be one of the above average titanium-only frame locks around. I want my next titanium frame lock to have a steel insert, just so i'm surely sure that one problem is taken care of.
Charr, it does seem like there's a stop pin snuck in there somehow. It could raise serious issues if the back of the blade were to contact titanium on the deployment.
Charr, it does seem like there's a stop pin snuck in there somehow. It could raise serious issues if the back of the blade were to contact titanium on the deployment.