Ganzo g729 vs paramilitary 2

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I don't recommend it, from what I've read online the axis lock on them is so incredibly tight that they're almost unusable, you would have to open it up and bend the springs to loosen it up, even then you'll be lucky if you don't strip one of the screws.
 
RX-79G said:
It might feel different to you, but they are legally identical, and both sidestep the intellectual property rights of the patent holders, stealing income from them because you didn't purchase what they invented, built or licensed.
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Yeah, putting a zip tie on my spydie hole is the same as stealing money right out of Ernie's pockets >_>
And if I use a piece of cardboard to flip my pancakes, I'm stealing from the spatula companies, right?? C'mon man.

For the record, I don't zip tie my knives, but if I wanted to, it would be my prerogative, because Emerson doesn't sell knife zip ties...
 
Rasco said:
Yeah, putting a zip tie on my spydie hole is the same as stealing money right out of Ernie's pockets >_>
And if I use a piece of cardboard to flip my pancakes, I'm stealing from the spatula companies, right?? C'mon man.

For the record, I don't zip tie my knives, but if I wanted to, it would be my prerogative, because Emerson doesn't sell knife zip ties...
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I have an Emerson in one pocket and a Ziptied Spyderco Assist in another, are my pants gonna explode?

OP, the PM2 will handle whatever you throw at it, you shouldn't need a "beater" clone.
 
Rasco said:
Yeah, putting a zip tie on my spydie hole is the same as stealing money right out of Ernie's pockets >_>
And if I use a piece of cardboard to flip my pancakes, I'm stealing from the spatula companies, right?? C'mon man.

For the record, I don't zip tie my knives, but if I wanted to, it would be my prerogative, because Emerson doesn't sell knife zip ties...
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You are also welcome to modify a lock back into a Triad lock, sew Calvin Klein tags onto your Lee's and download copyrighted music for free. Do whatever you want, just don't defend that behavior as okay and others as bad because you want to pick and choose which laws you honor.


And just so we're clear, Ganzo did not break a single law making a copy of an Axis lock. The law is broken when people import them into the US where the patent is in effect.
 
RX-79G said:
You are also welcome to modify a lock back into a Triad lock, sew Calvin Klein tags onto your Lee's and download copyrighted music for free. Do whatever you want, just don't defend that behavior as okay and others as bad because you want to pick and choose which laws you honor.


And just so we're clear, Ganzo did not break a single law making a copy of an Axis lock. The law is broken when people import them into the US where the patent is in effect.
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so then could Amazon face a lawsuit for selling ganzo knives since they're distributing an item that's breaching patent laws?
 
If I put a zip tie on my Spyderco, that doesn't make it a clone, or a knockoff, or an imitation Spyderco...
It just makes it a real Spyderco with a zip tie on it. Zip ties on Spyderholes are not trademarked or patented. Emerson doesn't use zip ties, so it's completely irrelevant.
You can't trademark "pressing the blade against your pocket" any more than you can trademark "putting a knife in your pocket"
 
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stonproject said:
so then could Amazon face a lawsuit for selling ganzo knives since they're distributing an item that's breaching patent laws?
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Only if it is actually Amazon, and not one of their sellers. Then it is no different than Ebay or Craigslist.
 
Rasco said:
If I put a zip tie on my Spyderco, that doesn't make it a clone, or a knockoff, or an imitation Spyderco...
It just makes it a real Spyderco with a zip tie on it. Zip ties on Spyderholes are not trademarked or patented. Emerson doesn't use zip ties, so it's completely irrelevant.
You can't trademark "pressing the blade against your pocket" any more than you can trademark "putting a knife in your pocket"
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Dude, Emerson's lawyers aren't going to show up at your door even if you create an identical clone to one of his knives. It is my opinion that when you "form" a "pin" on your knife for the purpose of opening it, you are doing what the patent describes, no matter how lowly a zip tie might be.


I get mighty tired of how everyone is lectured about what they can buy, what they can do with their knife once they have it, and what my hobby does and does not consist of. But if you want to be Mr. Upright with this patent, copyright, trademark junk then walk the walk. If not, do whatever you want and let everyone else do the same. No one is importing Ganzo knives by the container-load to where it would matter, just like your ziptie isn't putting Emerson on the street. Pick one.
 
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Unfortunately, this went way off topic into ridiculousness. You know who to thank for this.
 
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