Gaucho knives and cuchillos criollos of South America

After poking around with the search function on BF I was able to find one of the posts I had referred earlier. It dates back to 2005. The poster is fellow forumite from 🇦🇷 :)
He was quite active until about 4 years ago. I am hoping he one day drops by and shares some of his cuchillos criollos with us :cool:

Hi Dan. I remember Francisco. He was a fan of the lambsfoot long before it became cool. 😉

I don't remember him sharing many pictures of his knives. It was a different time back then, threads were not usually flush with images.
 
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Hi Dan. I remember Francisco. He was a fan of the lambsfoot long before it became cool. 😉

I don't remember him sharing many picture of his knives. It was a different time back then, threads were not usually flush with images.

That is really cool. Hopefully he comes back :thumbsup: I left him a message on his profile.

Different times I am sure, even the "like" button and all the other emojis did not exist ... and perhaps it was better that way.

While searching the posts from way back I discovered that a very discerning member was in search of a criollo as far back as 2007 .... way before they became cool ;)
Check out this post
( I think you should smash the "like" button below 😀)
 
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While searching the posts from way back I discovered that a very discerning member was in search of a criollo as far back as 2007 .... way before they became cool ;)
Check out this post
( I think you should smash the "like" button below 😀)

Thank you for that glimpse into the past Dan. I can't believe it took me fifteen years to pick up my criollo knife. Not that the wait wasn't worth it, my puñal from Maxi is all I could have hoped for.

The ridiculous part is that I remember Boker Arbolito used to offer a stag handled gaucho knife with a 20cm carbon steel blade. I paid little attention to them at the time, not realizing that those Arbolitos were the real deal. Oh how I wish I had been savvy enough to pick up one of those knives.

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The ridiculous part is that I remember Boker Arbolito used to offer a stag handled gaucho knife with a 20cm carbon steel blade. I paid little attention to them at the time, not realizing that those Arbolitos were the real deal. Oh how I wish I had been savvy enough to pick up one of those knives.😭
I'm sure it's happened to all of us. I guess that's why they say it's better to have loved and lost ... But now you get to love (and hopefully not lose) your Maxi knife!
 
My Maxi knives are nice and it took me awhile to realize how much I liked the pattern, tastes evolve slowly, much like a slowly cured meat on a spit or asado. had to throw that in there! Here is an old pic again to share my Maxi’s.no comments on the socks please. :)IMG_0490.jpeg
 
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Here's a knife that I procured recently, made by Deakin, Ecroyd & Co. (1868-1874), and pictures of which I had already shown in posts #232 and #401:

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I followed this knife for quite some time before purchasing it, since the price was a bit too high for my taste, but recently I decided to make an offer to the dealer, and they accepted. One of the reasons I had been eying this knife for so long -- other than its "objective" beauty -- is that it appeals to both my interest in guacho knives and my interest in bowies, as it was made in Sheffield during the Victorian period (by a maker known to have exported knives to South America) and has elements commonly seen in bowies, such as the file work on the spine (traditionally referred to as jimp and bevel) and the ornate hollow nickel silver handle (in this case, showing traces of silverplate). Since the topic of the thickness of gaucho knives was recently discussed in this thread, it may be worth mentioning that the blade of this is knife is in line with those of other antique and vintage examples, tapering from about half a centimeter to less than a millimeter. I suspect this heavy taper is what prompted the maker to grind the false edge and jimp and bevel only on one side of the blade, as shown in the picture below:

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As for the sheath, it's most likely a custom-made replacement, since the style and construction is not that commonly seen in Victorian Sheffield knives, and the belt loop is on the left-handed side. Still, based on the condition (relative to the knife), style, and materials, I'd say it's an early replacement. Who knows, perhaps the knife (which seems to have never left the UK, as that's where it was when I bought it) was carried in WW1 and/or WW2 and the sheath was made for that purpose.

I close with a picture of the knife next to another hollow-handled Sheffield piece from the same period, made by Wragg & Sons (which I've shown before in the Non-American bowie-type knives thread), to highlight the bowie connection:

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Edit: Maker's name and date have been corrected.
 
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Thank you for that glimpse into the past Dan. I can't believe it took me fifteen years to pick up my criollo knife. Not that the wait wasn't worth it, my puñal from Maxi is all I could have hoped for.

The ridiculous part is that I remember Boker Arbolito used to offer a stag handled gaucho knife with a 20cm carbon steel blade. I paid little attention to them at the time, not realizing that those Arbolitos were the real deal. Oh how I wish I had been savvy enough to pick up one of those knives.

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Hey Christian, nice to see you are enjoying your puñal, I may one day have to go for a longer criollo as well :thumbsup: :cool:
Too bad about Arbolito is not offering the carbon criollos anymore with the more robust blades.
A while ago I searched for them and even wrote to Arbolito in Argentina a couple of times however never got a reply :(

My Maxi knives are nice and it took me awhile to realize how much I liked the pattern, tastes evolve slowly, much like a slowly cured meat on a spit or asado. had to throw that in there!
Great to see them side by side and see the differences in blade shapes. I like them both.
If I ever go for a second longer criollo I would likely go for a blade with a more spear-like shape as in your puñal to complement my Verijero with its more upswept tip.

Here's a knife that I procured recently, made by Deakin Egroys & Co. around 1880, and pictures of which I had already shown in posts #232 and #401:
Congratulations amigo :) Nice to see that you were able to acquire it after thoroughly researching it :thumbsup: A stout blade indeed !
As always, very informative post.

I'll leave you with another painting
"Capataz y peón rebelde" by Boneo, Martín León, 1901
( The foreman and the rebel ranch hand )
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Bumping the thread with a couple of Eberles (Brazil):

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The top one is a recent acquisition. Though there have been several knives by this maker shown here, I believe this one isn't quite like the rest, as the blade appears to be high-carbon steel and the scabbard pattern is one I hadn't seen before. Personally, I really like this type of mythological motif -- which by the way wasn't unusual in the 1800's and the first portion of the 1900's. Some more pics below:

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Cheers, fellow gauchos!
 
Bumping the thread with a couple of Eberles (Brazil):

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The top one is a recent acquisition. Though there have been several knives by this maker shown here, I believe this one isn't quite like the rest, as the blade appears to be high-carbon steel and the scabbard pattern is one I hadn't seen before. Personally, I really like this type of mythological motif -- which by the way wasn't unusual in the 1800's and the first portion of the 1900's. Some more pics below:

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Cheers, fellow gauchos!
Thanks for posting those beauties!
 
The top one is a recent acquisition
Congrats on the new acquisition ! :)
Very nice to see your collection growing and also learn something about each piece :thumbsup:

Prester John Prester John Any news about your Verijero ?
I imagine any time now !!!

I bought a small jar of "Dulce de Leche" from Argentina in a Hispanic store in Montreal.
I grew up on this stuff LOL :)
As this jar was for export to Canada we can also call it "Milk caramel spread" or "Tartinade de caramel au lait" :)

My Verijero could not wait to get a taste of it :)
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I see that I am running very low on yerba mate too 🧉:eek:
 
Congrats on the new acquisition ! :)
Very nice to see your collection growing and also learn something about each piece :thumbsup:

Prester John Prester John Any news about your Verijero ?
I imagine any time now !!!

I bought a small jar of "Dulce de Leche" from Argentina in a Hispanic store in Montreal.
I grew up on this stuff LOL :)
As this jar was for export to Canada we can also call it "Milk caramel spread" or "Tartinade de caramel au lait" :)

My Verijero could not wait to get a taste of it :)
SS2jMM1.jpg


I see that I am running very low on yerba mate too 🧉:eek:
Maxi said the knife was finished, and he sent it to get the sheath made. That was a few weeks now, so I think any time. Checking every day for messages!

Oh, I love leche quemada! From Mexico. Ate by the spoonful, but haven't had any lately. Guess I should try that yerba mate too!
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I bought a small jar of "Dulce de Leche" from Argentina in a Hispanic store in Montreal.
I grew up on this stuff LOL :)
As this jar was for export to Canada we can also call it "Milk caramel spread" or "Tartinade de caramel au lait" :)

My Verijero could not wait to get a taste of it :)
SS2jMM1.jpg


I see that I am running very low on yerba mate too 🧉:eek:

Looks like you're almost out. Might want to get the big jar next time.
 
I've wanted to get South American knife for a while but my ignorance on the subject makes it a bit intimidating. :D
Me and my best friend have been slowly saving funds for trip and he mentioned Argentina has interested him wich was a delightful surprise.
That would definitely be a great opportunity for some knife hunting. The trip is somewhere in the future but I have to check this thread for some research and inspiration.
And I really need to get those Spanish lessons too - lazy me.
 
"Tartinade de caramel au lait"
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Guess I should try that yerba mate too!
I have two pounds of it, and two stainless steel filter straws, and then I find out it's carcinogenic, especially when hot. Though I haven't looked into that at all deeply because I'm not trying to give up coffee anymore.
I have a bunch of French chicory, too, which I like much less than my paternal grandfather did. I think he mixed it with his coffee, though, which would take some of the edge off of the chicory.
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I've wanted to get South American knife for a while but my ignorance on the subject makes it a bit intimidating. :D
Me and my best friend have been slowly saving funds for trip and he mentioned Argentina has interested him wich was a delightful surprise.
That would definitely be a great opportunity for some knife hunting. The trip is somewhere in the future but I have to check this thread for some research and inspiration.
And I really need to get those Spanish lessons too - lazy me.
If you go to Argentina, I think you can't go wrong with any of the Tandil-made carbon-steel blades. There are also some tourist brands/models that are decent from what I hear, though that wouldn't be the traditional choice.

By the way, I've been meaning to ask you: How is the blade fitted into the scabbard in your Eberle knives? Do they go directly against the metal, or is there any sort of sleeve or slabs inside to make them snug?
 
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If you go to Argentina, I think you can't go wrong with any of the Tandil-made carbon-steel blades. There are also some tourist brands/models that are decent from what I hear, though that wouldn't be the traditional choice.


By the way, I've been meaning to ask you: How is the blade fitted into the scabbard in your Eberle knives? Do they go directly against the metal, or is there any sort of sleeve or slabs inside to make them snug?
The Eberles I have just slide into the scabbard and would fall out pretty easily, but stuffing in a fold of milk bottle plastic snugs up the fit.
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I have heard that you're supposed to pinch the open ring at the top of the scabbard to improve retention, but there's no way I wouldn't mess that up.
 
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