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Let me set the stage :
Pretty much stock edge ; barely touched up with Spyderco Ultra Fine triangle rod. Just once / while hand held.
Had done a little bit of my hard rubber trimming and it preformed absolutely perfectly. Too early to tell about durability; I didnt have enough of that work for a good test.
Decided to try er out on a big old double wall cardboard shipping box :
Penetrated nice . . . great so far.
Cut a little less than two feet . . . the belly of the blade kicked the blade up out of the box some . . . no surprise here (this isnt a hook bill or a straight edge box knife or a karamibit that would bend down into the cut).
I was fighting to get it back down and under control when we went off the road and into the weeds. Weeds being big O two inch long staples. BLAM ! ! !
Hit a staple solidly. Luckily it was running in the same direction of the cut (not a perpendicular collision). I knew I hit it good because I could see a large area where it was no longer copper plated but steel color glinting menacingly back at me as if to say Awe . . . little boy with the fancy new pretty-boy-knife finds out what the world is really like AAAAAAHAHAHA grrrowel slather.
Well it all happened in a split second but that is the way I remember it anyway.
I finished cutting up the box but stayed further away from the corner folds.
Dang ! I wonder how bad it is ? Oh well this is a user if anything. Designed and built for use. Even though aesthetically stunning I am going to bang it up. I bought it for use.
The box was down flat on the ground and this would probably not have happened if I had stood it up on end perpendicular to the floor and cut down or even up. But using a box knife to cut that same exact box shape (been cutting that same exact box shape for forty years) while down flat on the floor the box knife would not have kicked out of the cut unless more dull than anything I would ever consider using.
I thought : The Edge Pro can fix it; what ever it is.
Heres the ell YAH :
Last night I took a look and it wasnt chipped. Shades of my 3V collisions with staples. Though those were mere touches compared to this one with the M4 GB.
Just kind of flattened the edge a little bit. Not rolled. I am still experimenting with my Spyderco Ultra Fine triangle rod. I bought a second one and carry it in my Emergency sharpening kit.
Originally I was going to cut the triangle rod in half so it would fit into the sharpening kit better.
You can see how ungainly it is here.
Then I wondered if I would be better off putting up with that to get a better (safer / more leverage) purchase on the rod for those rare occasions when I need that. Though usually I am going to be taking very light passes on smallish blades with it.
After all it tucks nicely into the old Man Purse next to the Razelized Ti Lite 6. He keeps the triangle rod from being broken for the most part. Hard to see here but Im not taking another photo. It is the white thing that is level with the top end of the Ti Lite and next to the brown leather wallet.
Hmmmmmm
I havent cut the rod in half yet.
Today I sat in the sun and looked over the Gayle Bradley. Still some little areas of serious glint off that banged up area of the edge from the staple.
I wondered what if anything I could do to improve that using the ultra fine rod before admitting defeat and heading for the Edge Pro.
Hot Dog ! I was able to take those corners of the sharpening triangle, Ultra Fine yet, and get all the glint off the ding (by going significantly steeper angle in that area of the edge) and got all the glint off and the edge back to sharp. Mostly I went against the edge with the rod and with a more than normal amount of firm pressure; by no means pressing hard; didnt want to damage the rod. I am not good at judging this . . . probably a pound of force . . . which is quite high considering the small contact area of the corner of the triangle.
Sharpened nice. I had already taken the flats of the rod to the edge as I said above, first against the edge then with the edge and it was some what shave sharp but not really. That is about how it came from the factory. Bites my finger nail good and strong. Usually for a hard use edge that is good to go in my book.
Cant hardly notice the ding when lightly drawn across my thumb nail. Moving sideways as I said it bites all along the edge now where as before in the half inch or so where it battled the staple it would slip side ways here and there .
Trims my fingernails like crazy which is one of my tests for excellent cutting edge geometry and sharp enough. Usually this only happens exceptionally well with my Dragonfly or Endura both in ZDP-189 and mirror polished / hair whittling. Many of my other knives, even when hair whittling, just take little chips off the nails and do not really cut curls pleasingly.
Funny how it wont really shave at this point. Must not be very sharp yet. Funny how when I get too close to the skin on the tip of my finger while trimming the finger nails it EASILY takes off a layer of skin (no blood) . . . this ll work ! ! !
I call that sharp.
So what I am getting at is :
I have not had to resort to overhauling the edge of the knife using my Edge Pro to get good edge geometry USUALLY ONE OF MY FIRST things I do when I get a new knife.
Good cutting performance (so far though sucks as a box knife / no surprise there)
Doesnt chip
The Spyderco Ultra Fine triangle rod is more versatile than I could have ever imagined (at least with this blade)
Im pleased with this combo and my start in this hobby for 2017 ! ! !
Pretty much stock edge ; barely touched up with Spyderco Ultra Fine triangle rod. Just once / while hand held.
Had done a little bit of my hard rubber trimming and it preformed absolutely perfectly. Too early to tell about durability; I didnt have enough of that work for a good test.
Decided to try er out on a big old double wall cardboard shipping box :
Penetrated nice . . . great so far.
Cut a little less than two feet . . . the belly of the blade kicked the blade up out of the box some . . . no surprise here (this isnt a hook bill or a straight edge box knife or a karamibit that would bend down into the cut).
I was fighting to get it back down and under control when we went off the road and into the weeds. Weeds being big O two inch long staples. BLAM ! ! !
Hit a staple solidly. Luckily it was running in the same direction of the cut (not a perpendicular collision). I knew I hit it good because I could see a large area where it was no longer copper plated but steel color glinting menacingly back at me as if to say Awe . . . little boy with the fancy new pretty-boy-knife finds out what the world is really like AAAAAAHAHAHA grrrowel slather.
Well it all happened in a split second but that is the way I remember it anyway.
I finished cutting up the box but stayed further away from the corner folds.
Dang ! I wonder how bad it is ? Oh well this is a user if anything. Designed and built for use. Even though aesthetically stunning I am going to bang it up. I bought it for use.
The box was down flat on the ground and this would probably not have happened if I had stood it up on end perpendicular to the floor and cut down or even up. But using a box knife to cut that same exact box shape (been cutting that same exact box shape for forty years) while down flat on the floor the box knife would not have kicked out of the cut unless more dull than anything I would ever consider using.
I thought : The Edge Pro can fix it; what ever it is.
Heres the ell YAH :
Last night I took a look and it wasnt chipped. Shades of my 3V collisions with staples. Though those were mere touches compared to this one with the M4 GB.
Just kind of flattened the edge a little bit. Not rolled. I am still experimenting with my Spyderco Ultra Fine triangle rod. I bought a second one and carry it in my Emergency sharpening kit.
Originally I was going to cut the triangle rod in half so it would fit into the sharpening kit better.
You can see how ungainly it is here.
Then I wondered if I would be better off putting up with that to get a better (safer / more leverage) purchase on the rod for those rare occasions when I need that. Though usually I am going to be taking very light passes on smallish blades with it.
After all it tucks nicely into the old Man Purse next to the Razelized Ti Lite 6. He keeps the triangle rod from being broken for the most part. Hard to see here but Im not taking another photo. It is the white thing that is level with the top end of the Ti Lite and next to the brown leather wallet.
Hmmmmmm
I havent cut the rod in half yet.
Today I sat in the sun and looked over the Gayle Bradley. Still some little areas of serious glint off that banged up area of the edge from the staple.
I wondered what if anything I could do to improve that using the ultra fine rod before admitting defeat and heading for the Edge Pro.
Hot Dog ! I was able to take those corners of the sharpening triangle, Ultra Fine yet, and get all the glint off the ding (by going significantly steeper angle in that area of the edge) and got all the glint off and the edge back to sharp. Mostly I went against the edge with the rod and with a more than normal amount of firm pressure; by no means pressing hard; didnt want to damage the rod. I am not good at judging this . . . probably a pound of force . . . which is quite high considering the small contact area of the corner of the triangle.
Sharpened nice. I had already taken the flats of the rod to the edge as I said above, first against the edge then with the edge and it was some what shave sharp but not really. That is about how it came from the factory. Bites my finger nail good and strong. Usually for a hard use edge that is good to go in my book.
Cant hardly notice the ding when lightly drawn across my thumb nail. Moving sideways as I said it bites all along the edge now where as before in the half inch or so where it battled the staple it would slip side ways here and there .
Trims my fingernails like crazy which is one of my tests for excellent cutting edge geometry and sharp enough. Usually this only happens exceptionally well with my Dragonfly or Endura both in ZDP-189 and mirror polished / hair whittling. Many of my other knives, even when hair whittling, just take little chips off the nails and do not really cut curls pleasingly.
Funny how it wont really shave at this point. Must not be very sharp yet. Funny how when I get too close to the skin on the tip of my finger while trimming the finger nails it EASILY takes off a layer of skin (no blood) . . . this ll work ! ! !
I call that sharp.
So what I am getting at is :
I have not had to resort to overhauling the edge of the knife using my Edge Pro to get good edge geometry USUALLY ONE OF MY FIRST things I do when I get a new knife.
Good cutting performance (so far though sucks as a box knife / no surprise there)
Doesnt chip
The Spyderco Ultra Fine triangle rod is more versatile than I could have ever imagined (at least with this blade)
Im pleased with this combo and my start in this hobby for 2017 ! ! !
