GEC Beagles

Slimness is important in a Pen knife more so than in a Jack knife. The skill of a cutler shows best in a Pen knife in which the thinly ground blades seat so closely together but do not rub and in the blade length which is to be as long as can possibly be fit into the frame. A slender Pen knife demands the greatest skill and imparts the best in-hand feel of all.
I think everyone who is interested in and 'moved' by Traditional style pocket knives should have a few representative pre WW I Sheffield Pen knives & Jack knives. Nobody, not even GEC has ever made better pocket knives than the best of the vintage Sheffield cutlers. Owning a few of these will help with the understanding and appreciation of the current fine work of GEC.
kj
 
Sorry if I wasn't more clear, but I'm talking about the slender-ness of the pattern when viewed from the side, the ratio of length to height. We have no idea what the actual thickness will be, especially not based on a profile drawing.

See how sleek the profile is on the Case pattern compared to the GEC drawing, which comes across as being 'fat' or stubby.

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It's similar (identical?) to a scaled down #56 reverse dog leg. Their #56 pattern is actually pretty close in the proportions and size to old knives but a lot of their knives don't follow traditional patterns very closely. I doubt they were really trying to recreate the traditional peanut knives. Although I am a huge fan of following traditional patterns, the larger frame of on their "beagle" does have some perks. It *could* be used to sink the joinks but in this case they didn't. It could also be used to fit a wider blade. It looks like the main blade may be a bit more full compared to other peanut knives. They didn't really take advantage of the extra room for the coping blade. It's an interesting pattern and could be reused with other blade configurations in the future.
 
kootenay joe said:
P. in your picture above, the GEC Pemberton is thicker than the Case, whereas you say "the two-bladed Pemberton (Pattern #06) is slimmer than a Case Peanut,".
kj
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Parallax effect, or "poor photographer." :o That picture is meant to show that the Pemberton is slimmer, but I guess does so only if one's eyes already know that it is.

The point being, the Pemberton is an oonch slimmer in real life (at least, when comparing those two knives with those cover options), and an oonch smaller lengthwise as well. Sorry for any (visual) confusion.

~ P.
 
supratentorial said:
... the larger frame of on their "beagle" does have some perks. It *could* be used to sink the joinks but in this case they didn't. It could also be used to fit a wider blade. It looks like the main blade may be a bit more full compared to other peanut knives. They didn't really take advantage of the extra room for the coping blade. It's an interesting pattern and could be reused with other blade configurations in the future.
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To pick up on our earlier exchange, I know what works for me visually, but have seldom looked carefully at the mechanics of a piece (nor could say with any confidence that I would fully understand what I was looking at, even if I did).

I can see what you're saying about there being room for more blade than GEC patterns tend to supply, and may now find that to become a point of intrigue/curiosity/potential disappointment of my own. Or not! :D

Once something catches one's attention in a bothersome way, functional and/or visual, There It Is. Non-sunken joints is one of those for me, as I know that too-sunk pins is for others-- although those are perhaps more aesthetic disappointments than one of a missed chance at functional real estate?

[Great Perplexer to me, to create a canoe pattern with larger bolsters and not sink the joints...!)

All that to say, I enjoy discussions like these, and wish they could happen more often face-to-face, with examples in-hand to see, share, illustrate. :thumbup:

Back to the Beagled Coyote: I look forward to watching these roll out, but know I will not be able to know their appeal to me unless and until I get one in-hand; the visuals alone aren't enough.

All mileage varies. :)

~ P.
 
I'm digg'n the coyote wharncliff being bare ended. Hoping for some wild acrylic covers.
 
I like the concept of a 2-bladed knife with one of the blades having a straight edge, especially if the design doesn't have the straight-edge spine sitting so high in the closed position as to make the grip uncomfortable when using the main blade, which seems to be the case so often with Wharncliffe and true sheepsfoot blades.

The GEC version of the coping blade seems to achieve that pretty well, though at the expense of some blade height.

Nice little knife from the pics so far. It does look a little chunky to my eye, but certainly not so much as the very popular 25 pattern, so clearly many people don't share my aesthetic sense. My pocket knife needs in that size range are already well served, but I'll enjoy looking at the pics of others' knives when they come out.
 
jc57 said:
Nice little knife from the pics so far. It does look a little chunky to my eye, but certainly not so much as the very popular 25 pattern, so clearly many people don't share my aesthetic sense. My pocket knife needs in that size range are already well served, but I'll enjoy looking at the pics of others' knives when they come out.
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Very well said. I've learned from owning a couple of 25s that chunky little knives get pushed out of the pocket by slimmer alternatives. However, this looks like a really neat pattern and I can't wait to see the pictures you all post. :D
 
Looks like **some** information has been released on cover materials. I’m really intrigued by “Tidioute Camo Acrylic.” To anyone’s knowledge, has GEC ever used camo acrylic before?
 
I second that Camo Acrylic interest. I am interested in these knives, but I prefer the beagle, and wouldn't mind both.
 
Not that I need more knives, but it sure is unfortunate that collectorknives doesn't ship to Canada any more, I'm sure one of these would find its way to me!!
 
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