GEC help...

Is it just the photo deceiving me, or is there a lot of rubbing on the tang of the main blade? I know these weren't the most centered blades I've seen (normally I couldn't care less about perfectly centered blades) but if the tang is rubbing the liner, this could be your culprit.
More so on the pen blade
 
Mike Large Mike Large Just so you don't feel like you are the only one that has had this problem. I was having the exact same problem with my # 35 Churchill. I lubed the pivot with Tri flow and the next morning it was just like yours. After many flushes with Tri Flow and blowing out with a air compressor it got a little better. I realized that the tang of the main blade was rubbing the liner so I knocked the edges of the tang down. That seems like it did the trick. I'm sure GEC will take care of it for you.
 
Mike Large Mike Large Just so you don't feel like you are the only one that has had this problem. I was having the exact same problem with my # 35 Churchill. I lubed the pivot with Tri flow and the next morning it was just like yours. After many flushes with Tri Flow and blowing out with a air compressor it got a little better. I realized that the tang of the main blade was rubbing the liner so I knocked the edges of the tang down. That seems like it did the trick. I'm sure GEC will take care of it for you.
Thanks alot. It should have arrived to the factory today actually. Shipped it off Monday. Does anyone here know the average wait time GEC usually has? I have mailed off benchmades and CRK's and hasn't been too too bad but this is my first GEC. Hoping it's not a brutal 3 months or so
 
Just got word that my knife is being shipped back to me tomorrow! Ill be posting an update and pictures upon return. Thinking about doing a 30 day review of my American jack. I'll be carrying other knives with it of course but I'll do my best to make that my main tool used. Good idea? Or has this been done too many times over?
 
Just got word that my knife is being shipped back to me tomorrow! Ill be posting an update and pictures upon return. Thinking about doing a 30 day review of my American jack. I'll be carrying other knives with it of course but I'll do my best to make that my main tool used. Good idea? Or has this been done too many times over?

Quicker than the 8 weeks they took to fix an off center/rubbing blade for me a couple years ago, so I'd say you're doing alright!

If be interested to read your review if you use your knife a lot, and if the review contains more than the standard fare "this GEC is amazing because it's so we'll made and I love it because it's amazing and I'm just so amazed by this amazing thing".

I don't mean for that to sound discouraging. I really like knife reviews. But I want to know about your subtle observations. I want to know how you tested that knife's meddle and didn't just cut apples or sandwiches with it and arrive at the "amazing" stamp because it's nice and you love it. If you write stuff like that, I'll probably read it anyways, but there are a lot of guys on YouTube taking about these "amazing" knives and not actually doing anything with them, ya know? Gimme something to really nerd-out about!

Also, I'm harping on the word "amazing" because I've become desensitized to review after review that features that word, or perhaps that word preceded by the word "truly", and I have a hard time connecting to that sense of amazement with every release of every knife just because it's a GEC. But I received a knife yesterday that re-lit my fire, and I want to acknowledge that sometimes it's nice to really love and be impressed by a knife, so I'm happy to read about that sense of amazement if it's genuine.
 
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Quicker than the 8 weeks they took to fix an off center/rubbing blade for me a couple years ago, so I'd say you're doing alright!

If be interested to read your review if you use your knife a lot, and if the review contains more than the standard fare "this GEC is amazing because it's so we'll made and I love it because it's amazing and I'm just so amazed by this amazing thing".

I don't mean for that to sound discouraging. I really like knife reviews. But I want to know about your subtle observations. I want to know how you tested that knife's meddle and didn't just cut apples or sandwiches with it and arrive at the "amazing" stamp because it's nice and you love it. If you write stuff like that, I'll probably read it anyways, but there are a lot of guys on YouTube taking about these "amazing" knives and not actually doing anything with them, ya know? Gimme something to really nerd-out about!

Also, I'm harping on the word "amazing" because I've become desensitized to review after review that features that word, or perhaps that word preceded by the word "truly", and I have a hard time connecting to that sense of amazement with every release of every knife just because it's a GEC. But I received a knife yesterday that re-lit my fire, and I want to acknowledge that sometimes it's nice to really love and be impressed by a knife, so I'm happy to read about that sense of amazement if it's genuine.
Well then, with that so poetically said,... I won't let ya down my friend. I'll post a new thread once I receive it
 
To be fair to GEC, knives aren't really designed to be left with tension on the springs for any significant period of time.

I've heard many stories of spring breakage from this very act, and also many that had no change in spring tension whatsoever. It certainly falls into the 'sketchy' use territory.

Whatever the problem may be sorry it happened to your knife, I know it must be extremely disappointing to happen to such a nice one. Looking forward to updates.

No, that's not true. It's also not really the case that leaving a knife part way open should make a drastic difference in the spring tension. In those cases, it would mean the spring was not treated correctly. A spring should not deform from being left in a tension state.

I sent an email at about 3 am and received an email at 6:30am, from Chris yes, saying "it sounds like an adjustment is needed" and to send it in. Feel pretty good about the whole thing now. Not sure how long I'll be without it but well worth a wait I'm sure

They really do care about standing behind their knives. I have had great communication overall from them. I have had a #38 Special Rendezvous knife there since February 26th and I thought it just needed the handle sanded so I think the turnaround can vary a lot depending on what's going on there.

With half stops and spring steel, I would say that there is some anomaly here you are missing. I would look into a bit closer as it would not be fair to GEC to have to oil your knife and pay for shipping back to you. But if you can't figure out what is going on, they would definitely want to look at the knife.

I don't know if you didn't get a chance to look at the pictures, but there's something not right with the manufacture of this knife. Blades should not sit in the 90% closed position without closing by spring pressure, especially after rinsing and oiling.


To my eyes that looks like both blades are off centered the same amount to the same side, indicating that the two sides of the frame are uneven causing the pivot to be slanted and the tangs to be rubbing on one side (maybe by the pictures the mark side).

Mike Large Mike Large Just so you don't feel like you are the only one that has had this problem. I was having the exact same problem with my # 35 Churchill. I lubed the pivot with Tri flow and the next morning it was just like yours. After many flushes with Tri Flow and blowing out with a air compressor it got a little better. I realized that the tang of the main blade was rubbing the liner so I knocked the edges of the tang down. That seems like it did the trick. I'm sure GEC will take care of it for you.

I've rubbed a little of the corners of the tang off also to smooth out action, but I don't think that's all that's causing this. I think the frame / scales / liners are uneven causing a slanted pivot.
 
I don't know if you didn't get a chance to look at the pictures, but there's something not right with the manufacture of this knife. Blades should not sit in the 90% closed position without closing by spring pressure, especially after rinsing and oiling.

You can't really go straight to manufacture error if the knife had "great walk and talk" until the blades were left half open - even your other comments referring to burrs, etc. agree with that. Thus, I still contend there was some other anomaly going on. I see knives all the time, squared end or not, that will not close from 90% due to resistance of some kind or another. It would be good if GEC would pass on the corrective measures.

Uneven frame would display much greater issues than shown and the turnaround time at the factory would not be one day.
 
You can't really go straight to manufacture error if the knife had "great walk and talk" until the blades were left half open - even your other comments referring to burrs, etc. agree with that. Thus, I still contend there was some other anomaly going on. I see knives all the time, squared end or not, that will not close from 90% due to resistance of some kind or another. It would be good if GEC would pass on the corrective measures.

Uneven frame would display much greater issues than shown and the turnaround time at the factory would not be one day.

You know what, I agree. I forgot that the original poster said that the knife had great walk and talk until it was left open. That does change things.

That's true, I was really surprised at the one day turn around. I have a knife there for over a month that I thought just needed the handle sanded. I'm guessing there was some kind of burr or debris of some sort. But it is strange that it was an issue on both blades.
 
Haven’t posted on the forums in quite a while but I do read them fairly regularly still.

I have an anomaly knife like the OP. I wonder if anyone can figure out what the deal is?

I picked up a 2 blade 56 in stag when they first popped up. When I received the knife, it was everything I’ve come to expect from a GEC knife. Despite somewhat light pulls, it was very snappy. I lubed it up with mineral oil and put it in my knife cabinet.

About a month later, I pulled it out to do a little CEing and CFing. Both blades were tight, like the pivot had been pinned too hard. They literally had to be pushed open and closed all the way. Even at 99% open or closed. If I tried to open both blades at the same time, it was even more stiff.

I was pretty sad about this. I gave it a mineral oil bath with a toothbrush and opened and closed it about 100 times. Didn’t make much difference.

I put it away and called Chris at GEC. She said that they’ve been having problems with mineral oil and to use WD 40 and told me to send the knife in. I have roughly 150 GEC’s as of right now and every one of them has received the mineral oil treatment. Never had any issues. In fact, in the 6 years I’ve been collecting these knives, mineral oil is the only thing I’ve found that keeps the rust away.

I never did send the knife in..... I figured I’d get to it later.

2 weeks after I called GEC, I pulled the knife out again and somehow the issue had completely resolved itself. The walk and talk is nice and snappy just like it was when I originally got it.

No extreme temperature changes, no moisture, no nothing that I can tell.... all the other knives are still just fine.....

Just wanted to post and say yeah, that happened to me too!
 
It must have had a splinter of metal stuck in the joint. Now that it's free, give it a good rinsing to flush it out completely.
 
You know what, I agree. I forgot that the original poster said that the knife had great walk and talk until it was left open. That does change things.

That's true, I was really surprised at the one day turn around. I have a knife there for over a month that I thought just needed the handle sanded. I'm guessing there was some kind of burr or debris of some sort. But it is strange that it was an issue on both blades.
It was a little over a month from when the OP posted that he shipped the knife in, and the recent post where he said it was expected to ship back to him. The two posts above are one following the other, posts # 43 & 44... Not one day turnaround.
 
I sent one in on Feb. 9th, and just got word yesterday that it was finished and being returned. Nearly 2 months is slower than I expected, but as long as it's right I'm OK with it. It's not like it was my only knife! :rolleyes:
 
It must have had a splinter of metal stuck in the joint. Now that it's free, give it a good rinsing to flush it out completely.


Jeff, the strange thing about my knife is that it could have been a metal shaving or something, but I flushed it and worked it on at least 3 different occasions. I was convinced it was a burr or something as well. Every time I put it back, it still wasn’t loosened up. After that, it was mysteriously just easy as pie to open. I flushed it again just in case.

Hope you get your knife back soon! You can always ease the pain by buying another knife!
 
I will chime in and say that it's good to see that GEC is letting you folks know when your knives are finished and shipping back.

I've only returned one knife to GEC for repair and that was in late 2016. The only reason I knew GEC had shipped it back is because I get notifications from USPS when a package ships to my address. I was never notified by GEC but I knew that a package shipping from Titusville, PA had to be my knife.

Just a minor thing as I would have received the knife either way but I'm glad to see that GEC is keeping the customer informed these days.
 
Actually, Rick, I had emailed Chris to inquire about my repair and she replied it was being returned.
I don't think they normally give any notice.
 
I will chime in and say that it's good to see that GEC is letting you folks know when your knives are finished and shipping back.

I've only returned one knife to GEC for repair and that was in late 2016. The only reason I knew GEC had shipped it back is because I get notifications from USPS when a package ships to my address. I was never notified by GEC but I knew that a package shipping from Titusville, PA had to be my knife.

Just a minor thing as I would have received the knife either way but I'm glad to see that GEC is keeping the customer informed these days.
I called:( haha sorry man
 
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