Gerber LMF II put to the test

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There have been a couple of threads dealing with the LMF II recently and I believe I've knocked the knife in both of them. It bothers me that Gerber thinks so little of its customers or its products that it won't even tell us what steel is being used.

Oh yeah, I know, they said there would be some kind of card or notice in the packaging, but there was nothing in mine and I have no idea what mystery metal my knife is made of.

Another complaint I have with the knife is that the handle material damages easily. I dinged it the first day I had it. The knife dropped and hit a rock or stick or something and put a small cut in the handle. I dinged it again today while I was batoning through some wood and missed and hit the handle instead of the blade.

Speaking of batoning through wood: in one of those other threads a fellow LMF owner complained that
the edge on mine has chipped, fractured, dulled and cracked under normal bushcraft usage. To be honest I don't think I've ever seen steel fail so catastrophically in any knife I have owned.

To be honest I've really not used mine very much, but I was intrigued by his experiences and thought I'd try to replicate his results. So I posted a response and asked him about his usage. He replied;
light battoning of softwoods like pine-by the time I get through a few 2 inch wide cuts, the edge looks like shark's teeth. Notching, digging in soft dirt, prepping a meal, just general light camping utilities-after the first night of a backpacking trip the edge is usually useless.

He did go on to say that his was a older model from 2007 and I got mine in 2009 so there's no telling whether out knives are made out of the same steel.

So I decided to test mine this afternoon by batoning through some wood. Now, it has been raining here for the past couple days and most of the wood I could find was wet and that might have played a role in my results. I don't question the experiences of my fellow forumite, but I must say my results were quite different and I was pleasantly surprised by the Gerber's performance.

In these first few pictures I tried chopping through a piece of dry hardwood. It was actually pretty easy and I noticed no ill effects on the edge.

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Then I batoned through a wet piece of deadwood. It really wasn't much of a challenge.

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Since that was so easy I decided to try batoning through a 4" treated fence post. Sorry no pictures, but I didn't get through. It wasn't the knife's fault though. The piece of wood I was using to baton with was actually getting chopped in half by the knife's spine because it was softer than the fence post. I got the knife a couple inches in before stopping and wrenching the knife free. Then I batoned the knife point first into the end of the fence post. I got it in a little over an inch before rocking it free. Again There was no damage to the edge or tip.

I finally sawed off a piece of limb that I thought would be a good test.

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As you can see the knife went through it with no problem. Afterwards I examined the edge and was pleased to find no chipping or rolling. See for yourself.

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It looks like I've been unfair to this knife and whatever mystery steel it's made of. I'm sorry my fellow forumite and LMF owner had such poor showings from his, but my knife seems to have held up very well. It could even still push cut paper when I got back into the house. Of course this was just a quick, simple test and prolonged use might yield different results, but I certainly feel a lot more confident in this knife now than I did before this little test.YMMV.
 
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I have one of the old steel models, 12C27M. I did test it some before using it at work and it performed very well. No chipping, no rolling, nothing bad to report about. Went through some copper pipes, old bricks, mild steel sheet and fuel hoses without any visible damage. Whittling, chopping small limbs and baton work went as good as it can with a knife with the edge geometry it has. NSTR...

I don't test like that anymore and would not do it again but it proved the knife's worth to me. I've said it numerous times on LMF II threads that based on my experience with the knife it is very good design, a good buy and an excellent performer.
 
I had one but sold it off before i could really put it through its paces...I just couldnt live with how military-looking it was, especially the sheath, and that huge skull-crusher at the base of the handle.

But from what limited experience i had i thought it was pretty good.
 
Thanks for the comments. The LMF performed well in my little test and it is comfortable and well balanced in hand.

Here are some more pics.

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Many thanks for the excellent pictures and review. That Gerber is certainly worth considering.
 
I've had no problems with mine. Its a tough little knife, too bad it has to have those serrations though!
 
Appreciate the comments.

I would have preferred it without the serrations, but I understand why they are there and for the knife's intended purpose it was probably the right thing to do.
 
I have one of the old steel models, 12C27M. I did test it some before using it at work and it performed very well. No chipping, no rolling, nothing bad to report about. Went through some copper pipes, old bricks, mild steel sheet and fuel hoses without any visible damage. Whittling, chopping small limbs and baton work went as good as it can with a knife with the edge geometry it has. NSTR...

I don't test like that anymore and would not do it again but it proved the knife's worth to me. I've said it numerous times on LMF II threads that based on my experience with the knife it is very good design, a good buy and an excellent performer.

I've been checking online for the LMF and Prodigy and all the ones I've seen stated 12C27 stainless steel. Some were listed as 420HC stainless. I assumed the 127C27 was the newer stainless used. If its the older type then what is the newer ones made from?

Thanks.
 
I've been checking online for the LMF and Prodigy and all the ones I've seen stated 12C27 stainless steel. Some were listed as 420HC stainless. I assumed the 127C27 was the newer stainless used. If its the older type then what is the newer ones made from?

Thanks.

Read the other links I posted in your thread. Nobody really knows what they're made of now. The 12C27M was the old steel. Then it went to 440A and I think it's now 420HC.
 
Read the other links I posted in your thread. Nobody really knows what they're made of now. The 12C27M was the old steel. Then it went to 440A and I think it's now 420HC.

Thanks for the links. :thumbup: They are very informative.
 
I looked closely at them at one time, and decided against it. Bought a Becker BK-2 for less money. It may not look as cool but, to me — for my uses — it's a better knife for less money. YMMV.
 
I looked closely at them at one time, and decided against it. Bought a Becker BK-2 for less money. It may not look as cool but, to me — for my uses — it's a better knife for less money. YMMV.

Is the Becker BK2 noticeably heavier than the LMF?

Thanks.
 
I looked closely at them at one time, and decided against it. Bought a Becker BK-2 for less money. It may not look as cool but, to me — for my uses — it's a better knife for less money. YMMV.

Thats an excellent blade, better than both Gerbers for hiking.
 
Is the Becker BK2 noticeably heavier than the LMF?

Thanks.

Yes, it is heavier than the Gerber, weighing in at 14 ounces, but it's — IMHO — a lot better knife. It's built like it should be able to destroy a tank, it's easy to sharpen, and — at 1/4 inch thick — chops and batons like a champ, yet still slices quite well.
 
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