Gerber that bad? Why?

What you didn't admit Dave was that we don't "outsource foreign markets made to substandard price points". The Leek you own (thanks very much btw) is made in the USA, and still is. You even mention it's "good", not crap??

I didn't come to this thread to beat my chest and say we're better than the rest, but more to correct statements that were false with their content. I'm not sure I did that with you, but hopefully in time you will see that we are not even close to the company you described.

Daverageguy said:
...1660 or the BM 425 ....
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Again, apples to apples Dave. You're comparing a value priced knife to a premium knife. I saw a 1660BWST online for $32.95, the 425 is in the $115 range. The patterns are also in two different categories. If you want to compare, could you at least have an honest playing field?

I like BM and Spydie knives as well, they make great products.
 
Daverageguy said:
Knarf,no beef with ya man it's just the internet :)

Mr. ThomasW i freely admit i pulled 22 millon outta the air and i happen to own a 1660 BWST it's a good cheap blade.
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Maybe you should have bought a 1660g10 (s30v)instead, since you obviously know quality blades.
 
I've bought 3 Gerber folders in the past year: 154CM Gator, Harsey Air Ranger, and plain edge Crusader. Surprise, surprise. The only one that sucked was the Gator (Portland blade stamp). Locked failed multiple times during moderate spine whack test (I know some don't like that test, but meh...). The Harsey and Crusader are both solid and, once convexed, scary sharp. I haven't done a lot of cutting with the Harsey, but the Crusader has handled many household/work chores and seems to hold a decent edge. I guess mileage varies quite a bit with Gerbers these days. You may get something nice, or you may not. That's the only thing that bothers me. If they could get their QC under control, it'd be a big step bqack in the right direction.
 
I have a couple of the Taiwanese SL 3.25's that I'm pretty happy with. I also just picked up a Spectre on ebay. I've been looking for one of those for ages. The only other Gerber I own is an ATS-34 EZ Out that I picked up around '96.
I'm pretty happy with all of these. My only complaint so far is the fragile pocket clip on the EZ Out. Nothing in their current line looks very interesting, though.

Sam
 
Ok TW i promise to genuflect in the direction of Tualatin Ore once a week.obviously i know nothing of knives,the knife market or metuallargy.

i'd still like to know which Blade you would pick to handle the skinning of that 250 lb wild boar...he Ate quite well for such a mature hog little rosemary garlic and medium heat. :)
 
Just like everybody has said...the Gerber of today sucks!

They have become a product of the greed-based, NAFTA-inspired wave that has completely consumed America these days :barf: I have an older early 90's Gator Mate. I can't kill it...I recently bought a Suspension multi just for S&G to see how it compared to an earlier Gerber multi that i have (the wrist flip slide opener) and the quality is just not there anymore. Out of the box there was too much play in the plier hinge and the wire cutters struggled with a paper clip!!!:mad:

I won't buy Gerber stuff anymore...
 
I have a beautiful rosewood handled hunting knife and a Mark I folder that Pete Gerber gave me in 1978 as a "thank you" for some help that I gave him on a project. They are excellent knives and, at that time, were well thought of in Oregon. I know that some of the original Gerber employees were very upset at Fiskar's manufacturing changes after the buyout. Sorry to see them go downhill in quality.
 
Larry from Bend said:
I have a beautiful rosewood handled hunting knife and a Mark I folder that Pete Gerber gave me in 1978 as a "thank you" for some help that I gave him on a project. They are excellent knives and, at that time, were well thought of in Oregon. I know that some of the original Gerber employees were very upset at Fiskar's manufacturing changes after the buyout. Sorry to see them go downhill in quality.
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Much of the work done by Gerber at the time was excellent...no one is questioning that. The fact is the in the last five years or so, Fiskars/Gerber has TANKED.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Well, I just (30 min ago) had a Gerber A-F combat folder close on my right hand and cut the shit out of it. Did the crazy glue thing to avoid having to go get stitches.
Not exactly impressed right now.

I've used a CRKT M16 far more frequently for about 10 years (this knife isn't exactly a utility knife) in far more situations where a lock could fail and this is a shock to me.
 
loraksus said:
Well, I just (30 min ago) had a Gerber A-F combat folder close on my right hand and cut the shit out of it. Did the crazy glue thing to avoid having to go get stitches.
Not exactly impressed right now..
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Oh man....the A-F really was the beginning of the end...crap materials, lousy grinds, and bad proportions all the way around..sorry about your hand, hope it heals clean, as far as the knife goes...what a waste of resources.:grumpy:

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I had a E-Z out years ago ...CRAP CRAP CRAP...I hate the knives but on a positive note i love the Multi-Tools
 
I haven't bought a Gerber in years but they must really suck for this thread to be going so long. What about that CRKT M16? They look good but I've never bought one, hung up on Spydercos, BMs, and Bucks.
 
sja2249 said:
I have a couple of the Taiwanese SL 3.25's that I'm pretty happy with. I also just picked up a Spectre on ebay. I've been looking for one of those for ages. The only other Gerber I own is an ATS-34 EZ Out that I picked up around '96.
I'm pretty happy with all of these. My only complaint so far is the fragile pocket clip on the EZ Out. Nothing in their current line looks very interesting, though.

Sam
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The Taiwanese SL 3.25s were good knives - and they were made of premium materials.
ATS-34, and scales of either G10 or carbon fiber. They were meant to be quality knives.

The Spectre was one of the best knives Gerber ever made, and had a price point to match. Also premium materials - 154CM and G10 - and made in the USA.

As for the EZ out, it is what it is - and Gerber was turning out knives of a different quality 11 years ago than they are today.
 
loraksus said:
Well, I just (30 min ago) had a Gerber A-F combat folder close on my right hand and cut the shit out of it. Did the crazy glue thing to avoid having to go get stitches.
Not exactly impressed right now.

I've used a CRKT M16 far more frequently for about 10 years (this knife isn't exactly a utility knife) in far more situations where a lock could fail and this is a shock to me.
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Wondering - is that a new A-F? Meaning, was it made within the past year or so?

Curious because I have a vintage ATS-34 A-F which is clearly superior - as to fit, finish, edge & lockup - to the 154CM A-F I bought a few months ago.
In fact, while I often carry the ATS-34 knife, the 154CM version has gone into a drawer somewhere. It's not bad; it's just not in the same league as the other.

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Hope your cut clears up in a hurry.
 
rifon2 said:
Wondering - is that a new A-F? Meaning, was it made within the past year or so?

Curious because I have a vintage ATS-34 A-F which is clearly superior - as to fit, finish, edge & lockup - to the 154CM A-F I bought a few months ago.
In fact, while I often carry the ATS-34 knife, the 154CM version has gone into a drawer somewhere. It's not bad; it's just not in the same league as the other.

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Hope your cut clears up in a hurry.
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Thanks, but since it's over a joint, I think it will be a pain.

I'm pretty sure it's over a year old (how can you tell which one it is?) - and it is nearly flawless in every other way and it never occured to me that the lock could fail. It's different when you have some Chinese POS with blade wiggle, etc - you're a lot more careful with that. Looking inside, the part of the blade that touches the lock has an angle to it and will disengage even if the lock isn't fully depressed with a bit of force.

Until this happened, my only negative thought about it was that it didn't come very sharp (to be expected though) and that it didn't have a carson flipper (ditto).
 
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