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I depends on where you are. If I am in Manhattan I don't feel the need to carry a 6" knife, but I should have every right to if I choose.

If I am hiking in the Everglades (near where I live) I have no problem carrying a BIG knife openly.

I carry a 3 1/5 to 4 " folder or fixed blade just about everywhere. That is usually enough for any occassion outside of the wilderness for me. But to each his own. If I could carry a five inch fixed blade openly everywhere I would.

Historically the problem was with carrying a blade concealed. Now the sheeple are better off not seeing it:rolleyes:

Tom19176, Do you think I would have any trouble carrying my sebenza in NYC in a pocket sheath? (I have to go there to visit my MIL:grumpy: )
 
Just because they don't have laws in Oregon governing the size of a knife blade doesn't mean you shouldn't use some common sense. Seriously... Did you really think you could walk into a bar with big 13" (OAL) camp/tactical style knife on your hip and not raise lots of eyebrows?? A Becker BK7 is a great heavy duty knife but as an EDC it's complete overkill. (Especially if you're going into bars, restuarants, or malls.)
 
After reading this original post, and a few others .... you can easily realize why there are laws against close relatives marrying ....... or keep their offspring locked in cages .....
 
How is this trolling? I wanted honest opinions about it.

I don't carry a knife to get attention. And I am not shocked that I get attention from it. And yes, going into a bar with a large knife on you isn't a good idea, and that was the first time it happened, I usually leave it in the car.

All I wanted was to here other peoples opinions and stories. I have seen other people with large knives on them here in Portland/Northwest, but never down in California where I grew up. So the first time I saw someone carrying a knife it surprised me. I wondered why anyone would need a large knife. And after carrying a few pocket knives, a few switchblades and butterfly knives, I finally bought a Buck 119, then a Buck 189, and for my 22nd birthday I got a BK7. I wouldn't carry anything larger, I agree 7" is overkill. But it just feels good knowing I have it on me. Any need can be dealt with.

I will however be getting a new Buck Strider folder in the very near future. So I get hassled a little less.


JGarth said:
After reading this original post, and a few others .... you can easily realize why there are laws against close relatives marrying ....... or keep their offspring locked in cages .....
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That was unneeded.
 
Flowers Of Naivety said:
I have also been kicked out of a store for carrying it. The manager, when asked repeatedly, guaranteed me that there was a no weapons/knife policy (which isn't posted anywhere.) And I left graciously as to not give my mother any problems (was shopping with her.)
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The store is privately owned and the staff or owner don't need a policy or anything else to kick you out. You walk in without shoes, they can kick you out. You swear, they can kick you out. You smell bad, they can kick you out. There is no laws against any of those things I just mentioned.

It is the same thing in a bar. The owner and staff can ask you to leave, or not allow you in, without you having to have broken any laws.
 
Hog Feet as long as it is under 4" blade, can NOT be flicked open ( tighten it), and is in your pocket ( no exposed clip, no sheath on the belt) then you should be OK
 
I do not actually have a car yet...decided I'd be better off with a bike, I can save my money and get a nice workout at the same time, which is also one of the reasons concealed carry isn't that great of an option for me, I wear jeans and a tee-shirt every day and have you ever tried riding a bike with a 6" blade in your waistband??? :eek: it sucks
 
its trolling because you are in the laws forum and you ask nothing about knife laws.

you asked about being "hassled", the assumption being that you did nothing wrong and were being treated inappropriately by police or whoever else.

this thread belongs in whine and cheese.
 
a lot of responses seem like a dismissal but i think they're right. i would carry a fixed blade with me if it wasn't illegal but not one so large. it's only natural that you get the reactions you do. i get shocked stares all the time when i just use my knife discreetly and only for i'ts intended purpose without showing off.

"doctor it hurts when i do this.." "then, don't do that."
 
tom19176 said:
Hog Feet as long as it is under 4" blade, can NOT be flicked open ( tighten it), and is in your pocket ( no exposed clip, no sheath on the belt) then you should be OK
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Very pitiful rules in NYC:(

But thanks for the reply. I may just carry a big steak knife and fork, as well as a baseball bat and a glove. You never know when you are going to go out for steaks after an impromptu baseball game in Central Park;)
 
Sharp objects and alcohol don't mix. I would be very reluctant to take a knife to a bar or club and I would be concerned if I saw someone in a bar carring a large knife. What guarantees me that it isn't a dumb punk who get drunk and does something stupid, or maybe one of his friends does, or after verifying that the blade is real, maybe that drunk woman gets some dumb ideas. Many bars and clubs here have a blanket "no weapons" policy. In principle that includes even a small pocket knife, but as always it is the perceived intentions and behaviors that make all the difference. If you carry a small pocket knife (preferably that looks elegant or classic) and keep it out of sight, I doubt you will have a problem.

I have never gotten hassled because of my knife, but I must say, I am going about this a bit smarter than the original poster.

Hog Feet: Can not be in plain sight with blade exposed or unexposed. To be on the safe side I'd assume that eliminates a pocket sheath, if you do not wear a shirt or sweater to cover it up.
 
I have a couple fixed blade knives that have 4 inch blades. The Chris Reeve Shadow III has an interesting looking sheath that covers most of the knife up to a few inches of the knurled handle. The other knife, an Extrema Ratio Shrapnel, is all black with a bit of tactical looks to it. The Shrapnel I just got the other day. I've worn the Shadow III a few times on my days off with no issues. I will be using my Shrapnel on my days off now that I have that one. In Hawaii, there is no blade size limit but conceal carry is illegal. So I have my knives (folders or fixed) hanging off my belt in a sheath but I definitely would not want to push the envelope by wearing anything larger that what I am now.

I do see other people (construction workers, ranch hands) wearing knives (no more than 4 to 5 inches folders and fixed blades) without any issues. I think it is how you carry yourself when you do have these knives on your person. But too large of a knife does pose an issue with the majority of people and there will be outspoken people in the public (not drunk and very sober) that will question you on why you have a knife, any knife large or small. I will exercise my right to carry my knives but in moderation and with in reason.
 
I think everyone who posts these kind of questions also needs to post a picture of themselves wearing the knife. It would be much easier to formulate a definitive answer, "Get a few more years under your belt and see if this issue is still important...."

We have a saying in Texas, "Big hat. No cattle."
 
MORIMOTOM said:
Its trolling because you are in the laws forum and you ask nothing about knife laws.
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As zenheretic pointed out, this thread was moved from General. You do have a point about it being nothing to do with knife laws. But don't accuse the topic-starter of being a troll just because Cougar moved this thread, here. Until he shows clear signs of trolling, he should at least get the benefit of the doubt.
 
Monocrom said:
As zenheretic pointed out, this thread was moved from General. You do have a point about it being nothing to do with knife laws. But don't accuse the topic-starter of being a troll just because Cougar moved this thread, here. Until he shows clear signs of trolling, he should at least get the benefit of the doubt.
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whatever, still should be in whine and cheese.
 
Flowers Of Naivety said:
And after about 10 minutes of arguing over the laws and showing our knives off we left laughing about the naivety of the majority of people.

I have also been kicked out of a store for carrying it. The manager, when asked repeatedly, guaranteed me that there was a no weapons/knife policy (which isn't posted anywhere.) And I left graciously as to not give my mother any problems (was shopping with her.)

Besides by the police, which you can count on everytime, has anybody else been hassled? Do you mind looks and questions?
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the amount of benefit i will give because of doubt is directly proportional to the amount of stupidity i am presented with.

the above statements speak to the level of maturity of the thread starter.

private business can have whatever rules they want, provided they dont violate existing laws. is he suggesting that every restaurant, store, venue, bank, etc, post a "no weapons" sign in the window?

it may be legal to walk around with a big knife strapped to your belt where he lives, but is it good judgement? it is akin to a hunter strapping a dead deer to the hood of his car. it may be legal, but why do it?

and he admits to showing off his knives in public. that type of behavior is just posturing.

the last statement in the quote is a troll statement, perhaps subtle, but none the less.
 
MORIMOTOM said:
the amount of benefit i will give because of doubt is directly proportional to the amount of stupidity i am presented with.....

.....The last statement in the quote is a troll statement, perhaps subtle, but none the less.
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I think you're being a bit too harsh on the guy. While I agree that he shouldn't have been showing off his knife that way, and you could easily make the point for that act being stupid; I still don't see the trolling.

In his 2nd-to-last sentence, he clearly did the right thing. Instead of standing there and arguing with the manager, he left. While stores are privately owned establishments that can refuse service to anyone, a real troll would have argued the point.

I also honestly don't see any trolling in his last sentence. Here in NYC, recently, legit business owners have been harassed by a task force set up to specifically check to see if the folding knives being sold over the counter are too easy to open. Classifying all folders as gravity knives, if they can be flicked open; LEOs are targeting small business owners. The task force makes a B.S. bust, shows that they're doing something to reduce crime in the city, and making revenue for the city; since these owners pay hefty fines in order to not have their lives ruined.

Sorry, but I view that as genuine harassment. The topic-starter has a legit point.

The last question he asked? I might be wrong, but I think it was meant to make us think about how we've reacted to those moments when folks have freaked out at the mere sight of a knife. Not necessarily a huge knife, but the knives we prefer to carry.
 
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