ghostfoot moccasins???

French Kiss said:
For the mocs, you could use rock climbing shoes as well, don't you think?
just my 2 cents...
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Have you ever worn rock climbing slipper? They are the most uncomfortable things to walk in. They are designed to give the foot a high arch to make it easier to maintain contact with the rock using just the tips of ones toes.
Youve given me an idea though. Specialty shops will resole climbing shoes with the high carbon,treadless rubber that comes stock on rock climbing slippers. Im gonna find out if they will resole hiking boots with the same material.
Thanks, Rui
 
Well, I think you refer to climbing shoes for short and very technical ways on the cliffs, but some are made for long climbing ways you can find in the mountains (600+ ft height), and they are quiet comfortable: try the Mythos from LaSportiva, those are very good shoes, although it's an old design you can still find it, mine are Diablo from Boreal, it's quiet comfortable too. French boxing (savate) shoes may do the trick too, although it won't last as long as climbing shoes which are build to sustain high stress on its structure.

Xavier.
 
Ive never tried these more comfortable shoes. My experience with rock climbing (since I live in New York City) is limited bouldering in Central Park and indoor rock gyms. When you suggested a climbing shoe, I thought something like my Boreal Stingers. These things fit like ballet slippers (high arching sole) and make even standing around between climbs very uncomfortable, never mind any extended walking. I figured that climbing shoes are all the same.
Im curious about the Savate shoes, do you know of any on line retailers of product web sites where I can see them?
 
you guys might consider wrestlers shoes. the soles are very soft and quiet. and the sole can be mended just like moc soles with the sole in a jar/goop. or you can get the barge cement and mix it with something diffrent than tire shavings
 
Have you guys seen these? A link was in a thread on gadgets and gear...

http://www.muckbootcompany.com/product_info.php?products_id=37

I wonder if a pair of converse allstars could be made to have some traction... and a more arch! I've got a high arch, so they are out...

Or maybe a "water shoe" like the kayakers use so they dont slice their feet up getting off of clam/oyster beds!
http://www.canoekayak.com/whatto/shoes/

Then there are a couple soccer shoes, like the addidas samba... real thin sole.

I'm interested in finding a pair of shoes that has enough cushion to keep my knees happy, but are thin soled with a soft compound rubber. I dont think loafers are the right answer... :D
 
There are stalking scent supresent boots on cabelas.com that look like they would work well, except the tread isn't smooth and I was wondering if you guys know of anthing to fill in the cracks of the soles. If so these would be a cheaper way of getting a ghost foot type footwear.
 
bvshido said:
There are stalking scent supresent boots on cabelas.com that look like they would work well, except the tread isn't smooth and I was wondering if you guys know of anthing to fill in the cracks of the soles. If so these would be a cheaper way of getting a ghost foot type footwear.
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Shoe goo!

:D
 
im using 100% silicone for the bottoms of my mocs i got it pre-colored brown you can also mix barge cement with some kind of shaving to give it bulk. i know that the silicone will wear realatively quick, but think of how quiet it will be. basicall its gunna look like a gel insert glued to the bottom of the moc. i think that soft squishyness will absorb almost every snap and crunch of debris underfoot. what do your guys think?

also i was wondering if i should sno-seal the leather before i make the mocs. some say not to because the leather looses its breathing qualitys and i guess this inhibits its insulationing ability(the mocs are gunna be fur lined so i dont think it will matter then). im not sure though because the polished leather that the catskill place uses would breath either would it? some opinions please
 
well i tried a bit of silicone on the sweade. its peeling of rather easily! maybe i need to rough up the leather a bit more? this really doesnt make sense though because the stuff sticks to glass and other really smooth objects. it even says it can be applied to wet surfaces! i might have to make some of these soles then glue them to the mocs. but i really would rather not. any suggestions?
 
Mechanical vs chemical bonding...

Chemical bonding causes the two materials to become one at the joint. Example: Plastic welds... chemical between two pieces of plastic, chemically melts the plastic together. Works well on things that are the same type of material.

Mechanical bonds are those which the glue used is between two different materials. The bond between both sides has to be strong or the bond fails.

Silicone is something that bonds physically to the material, but doesnt do a very good job of it because its tensil strength is low. You need a different material to use as the sole of the shoe, or you need a different way of attaching it. Possibly stitching a piece onto the sole.

Shoegoo is self vulcanizing rubber, it is workable until applied... I think it hardens only in air, maybe oxidation... dont know all that much about it. But, it is also a mechanical bond. It peels off almost as easily as the silicone, because its intended use is a bandaid!

I'm wondering if some of the epoxys that are out now are flexible enough to be used as the sole of a shoe, they have extremely high yeild's! On fiberglass boats you can use some stuff that 3M makes called 5200... stick a piece of metal to the fiberglass, it will pull the fiberglass apart before the bond between the metal and the epoxy fails!

I think I've got the terminology right for most of those... been awhile since I took physics! :D
 
Well... some of the glues do stink ;)

Just have to find a compromise. Comfortable, silent, and decent wear rate!
 
Probably worth a shot...

I wonder if car undercoating in a thin enough coat could work? :D
 
i think ill give the silicone another shot by itself, exept this time im gunna rough up the leather with a hacksaw blade first. do you know if the sell a silicone waterproffing spray for leather, hotrod? i think ive seen it in a catalog before. am i correct? anyone know of this stuff?
 
I think I have seen silicone based waterproofing... That would keep the water from soaking from the outside to the inside.

The solution is probably the conveyor belt stuff that the expensive moc's use for a sole! :D
 
DUH!

The rubber that the rock climbing shoes have for soles... I've heard that they can be resoled, I wonder if using that type rubber would be an option?

How did I forget about that? :confused:
 
roughed up the leather with a hacksaw blade before i applied the silicone. worked like a chary i cant even cut it away from the sole! this is great!
 
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