Go Anywhere Vehicles?

I used to go with a few friend with a 4x4 club. Sitting around a fire alot of guys would say 4x4 is go get you out of places not to places. If a big 4x4 gets stuck only a bigger one would get you out.
 
The new 2.7 Disco 3, by all acounts, its the one to have.

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My last ride was the best 4X4 yet , it was a '97 JEEP grand cherokee:thumbup: this thing went like a tank ! It had some miles so I traded for an '06 Toyota Tacoma 4X4, I've had it almost a year & still haven't took it to the hills yet :( But I will !:D
 
Go anywhere vehicle you say?

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This with a bunch of upgrades.

Modern offroading bikes will jump gaps, take drops, descend and ascend better than the best of offroading rigs. Hydroplaning? Never heard of it. Insane slopes? Get down and the bike becomes a rolling crutch with brakes that'll anchor you. Ruggedness? Well-made full suspensions will break only long after you, and will keep running as long as you're alive. It's not going to protect you from the elements, but that's what a tent is for.
 
I have a 2001 xterra, small lift and 32's. I have to say it has served me well so far. Yeah the gas mileage isn't all that great but it can go any where I point it (well almost any where) and still have enough room for the family and gear.
 
severtecher said:
Driving technique will out perform a big dollar 4X4 on most occasions. Like they say , "a 4 wheel drive just allows you to get stuck where you can't with a 2 wheel drive."
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Hey there!! Technique is everything. Seems we have the same area of interest eh. Ever run the Chute with a stock 2 wheeler?
 
severtecher said:
Driving technique will out perform a big dollar 4X4 on most occasions. Like they say , "a 4 wheel drive just allows you to get stuck where you can't with a 2 wheel drive."
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This doesn't make sense :confused: Is there some special 2x2 driving technique that I am not aware of. I have driven 4x4s all my life and there is no way in hell a 2 wheel drive is going to keep up, I don't care if Colin McRae is behind the wheel. Chris
 
Salamander42 said:
Sounds like my dream truck. I wanted to get one of those older Toyotas earlier this summer, but didn't have the money. Had to settle for a very beat up Cavalier instead. I'll definitely be getting a truck sometime within the next year though.
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Hey bro,

I highly recommend them! If your interested stay with a 4 cylinder pre 95'. I have had problems with Toyota 6 cylinders pre 95, head gaskets mostly. If you can do your own it's not a big deal. Very economical performance for the build costs. I love Jeeps, but have had reliability problems with them. I am no expert for sure, but if I can answer any questions for ya let me know. We don't call them Taliban Humvee's for nothing :)

In my opinion, kind of like the Mora of offroad vehicles.
 
1894 - "Any Rokon Owners out there ??"

One of my hunting partners has a ROKON Trail-Breaker four stroke. A good friend of his also has one. It is absolutely amazing where those things will go. Just about anyplace a mule can go go, a ROKON can... and haul out a lot of elk and deer meat, too.

Plus, they are exceptionally quiet.

FWIW.

L.W.
 
I have a 95 tacoma 3" lift with 31s and the 22r, IMO about as bullet proof as you can get now days. I made my son very happy with it when he turned 16, he's pulled a lot of his bonehead friends out with it. One a new ranger in a gravel pit hole that was in over the hood, insurance totalled it. If that kid was my son I would have killed him. Chris
 
runningboar said:
This doesn't make sense :confused: Is there some special 2x2 driving technique that I am not aware of. I have driven 4x4s all my life and there is no way in hell a 2 wheel drive is going to keep up, I don't care if Colin McRae is behind the wheel. Chris
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I think what he meant was that a 4x4 allows you to get stuck in a more remote area than you could have with a 2wd, not that 2wds are more capable off road.
 
This is my 99 Tacoma. It has an Old Man Emu lift and a custom steel flatbed on it. It rolls on 32" Cooper Discoverer STTs. I've got a huge list of modifications I won't even go into. I haven't gotten stuck yet in this baby.


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My next vehicle is going to be a Pinzgauer. If you want a go anywhere vehicle these are it. If you want to live in your vehicle you can get a Unimog, or modify a 6X6 Pinzgauer.

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runningboar said:
This doesn't make sense :confused: Is there some special 2x2 driving technique that I am not aware of. I have driven 4x4s all my life and there is no way in hell a 2 wheel drive is going to keep up, I don't care if Colin McRae is behind the wheel. Chris
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There is , and isnt ...

I had a nissan homer truck ( 1.8 litre 4cyl 2x4 , bogs on sight of sand ) I fitted way way oversized tyres to it , and could not bog it after , even when attempting to recover a really really stuck landcruiser and we burried the back down till the diff hit the sand and the tryes were spinnig in space .. we shoved the sand out from under the diff and drove out of the hole no worries , had another go and eventually got the 'cruiser out

that truck was "modified" for sand tho because that is what we had to deal with for literaly hundred of kms around us , the only time we needed 4x4 in a vehicle was for sand pretty much ....

here now , its rocky country with mud , slick slick mud and sometimes snow, my 4x4 is broken , so I have fitted mud tyres to the car on the rear and truck tyres with the deepest widest grooves I could to the front , working on a tractor set up principle , heaps of grip at back , plenty of steerability at front , and itll be OK

so far so good , we do keep up with 4x4 folk as far as they go , we go further often , even when the others go back because tit torough , too steep or too muddy ( 4x4 club outings are a crack up , their 2way chatter is enough to kill a man laughing
"Can you guys help , Im stuck in the creek "
"did you put 4 wheel in ? "
"yeah "
"Did you lock your hubs in ?"
"oh , hang on ..")

but it should be noted that its ot only city folk who want to justify their 4x4 ownership that we meet , its also farmers , who are among the hardest user of their vehicles in the roughest terrains , and prospectors , again the same kind of folk .

these guys know that mud tyres and a set of snow chains , maybe two sets if steering is a priority , will get a ordinary car thru most wet snow and mud obstacles , and oversized , offroad tyres are not only for 4x4 vehicles , but also do damm good service on a 2x4 vehicle .

I do have a couple sets of snow chains in case but so far just the deep offroad tread has been more than enough to get us us thru , we have been places that 2x4s are not supposed to go , just because we can , and like to go there . Horses for courses , I have been getting bomby old farm cars into and out of places that folk wouldnt dream they could go , now I have some cash and a good car ( old ugly but mechanically reliable ) I am doing the same in a street car .

so I guess the answer to your question is , yes there is a way of driving a 2x4 , kinda like one drives a beach buggy , but also , not the kinda 2x4 s it rolls off the showroom floor tho , better tyres are a must ... tyres designed for bitumen roads are good for bitumen roads , tyres designed for offroad are good for offroad , and as a very general rule , the more tyre the better .

but no , a 2x4 will not usually keep up with a specially modified offroad vehicle over the exact same track , give some leeway and allowance to negotiate one suited to the vehicle tho , and yeah , both will usually arrive at the same destination ..

FWIW , my toyota 2x4 negiotiates a local 4x4 clubs medium hard 4x4 training circut no worries ... aside from a fewbelly scraps ,

have traction , will travel !
 
I had a 2WD nissan before I got my Tacoma. I took it over some nasty stuff. I try to do most driving in 2WD and only engage 4wd and lockers when neccessary.

Unless you have a locked rear end on your 2wd it is useless in.

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Snow

I don't care how good of a driver you are anytime you are trying to push your vehicle with one rear tire your only going to go so far. You'll just end up burying that tire until the axle hits. If you have a long travel desert runner you will be alright in sand. But most stock 2WD leaves much to be desired.
 
Your experiences obviously differ radically from mine ,

Im aware of the onewheeler problem , I found that big rubber , and a bag or two of cement in the back or just a good weight of gear do wonders for overcoming it tho .

its more a matter of working with what you have than calling it quits and saying it wont work .

My 2x4 work ute that had 1 1/2 ton of gear on its back axel uesd to go places for work that my boss who followed in his 4x4 jeep was reaching for 4 wd to get thru

the ute had only a one wheeler diff , but a lot of weight and big enough rubber .
 
Myal,
I am not sure what kind of wheelin that goes on in OZ or your terrain. Here a 2 wheel drive, with any tires, is in real trouble if you try to take it on true 4x4 trails. I don't normally 4 wheel for the fun of it, I do own two very capable rigs and use them for hunting and fishing. I have been locking hubs for over 20 years and you can improve the perfomance of any 2 wheel drive with a lift, locker in the rear and quality tires but it pales in comparison to purpose built off road vehicles. The pics are from about an hours drive from my house. Chris

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