Golden Colorado - Production problems...

AG,
First off, who the hell are you to criticize Sal and Spyderco? One could argue that Sal is one of, if not the most influencial makers of all times. Who are you? You are like the annoying child in the back seat screaming "are we there yet" just begging for a response. You recieved an answer from Sal first time around but yet you persist. I can't disagree with you more.
Matt
 
My Native has impressed on the choil:

GOLDEN, COLORADO

U.S.A. EARTH

Those words give me an unreasonable amount of pleasure considering the price I paid for the knife. :)

Please, please, do not change those words.
 
It is indeed a very inspired feature :) I love it! I'd like to see it on other models as well.
 
I really feel the need "say" something here. As has been said before, we all have different tastes so it's not to be expected that everyone will fall head over heels for the same product or model. I'm fairly new to Spyderco knives (I've only owned three and still have two). Spyderco's knife designs generally never interested me much in the past, so I didn't pay much attention to them at all. I was too obsessed with the axis lock. That's OK though, different strokes for different folks. Within the last year, I've traded into three spyderco knives, two of which I've kept, and I must say I was pretty blown away with their quality. One is the Perrin and one is the Calypso. I traded a Goddard lightweight not so much because I didn't like it but more because I found a deal on something else I wanted more (and I can't afford to own everything I'd like have simultaneously). I was so impressed with my Spydies, that I started coming to this forum to understand a bit more about Spyderco's fans, and the company. What I've learned here has impressed me very, very much. I'm not criticizing any other companies, but I must say that I've not seen any other "factory operation" display the kind of sincere interest in it's fans opinions, nor have I seen a company director display as much integrity as I've seen in how Mr. Sal Glesser conducts himself on this forum. Anyone half knowledgeable in the industry realizes the dollar influence limitations that we knifeknuts have in the cutlery market, yet Spyderco goes through the effort of tapping into the valuable technically knowledgeable opinions of their hard core fans here and they appear to weigh that knowledge accordingly and with sincerity into their product development and improvement process. Also, Spyderco is "transparent", as Mr. Glesser stated, in how it shares it's product development knowledge with it's customers/fans. How many other companies do this? I've not encountered any that are as "up front" as Mr. Glesser. I sincerely appreciate that kind of informational honesty, which has it's inherent risks among the masses who are generally not all that objective/compassionate in their thought/judgement processes. Who among us does not make some mistakes in our job, our home life, in our friendships...? Within reason, it's not a big deal really, it's part of being human. On the other hand, who among us openly admits and evaluates problems and mistakes when we make them, without regard to ego, in an effort to improve ourselves and the world around us....in society at large I'd generally say not too many. From what I've seen around here however, Spyderco strives to achieve this higher standard of existence and that's pretty damned impressive to me. It's a quality I look for in all my close friends, associates, and business partners.

In short, although I previously didn't give the Spydie product line the "time of day", due to my own aesthetic values, I have since come to truly appreciate them as high quality products. Mr. Glesser's and Spyderco's professional integrity, as evidenced in this forum, have further elevated my esteem of their offerings to the point where I have redefined my previous aethetic tastes. Spyderco has greatly assisted in maturing the tastes of this knife user. Thank you very much.

P.S. A lot you fans seem to be pretty impressive people as well. Thank you too.
 
Hi Nobody, Thank you for the kind words. A crew and a customer base with similar values certainly makes the "job" easier.

sal
 
Well, for my two cents....

I have owned more than a few Spydercos. Some I sold. Some I've kept. However, the knives from Golden, CO have always been top notch from my perspective. I've owned a Military (sold it...just too big for me) and a BF Native (sold it too...just too blue for my tastes). I sold these knives because of aesthetics--not because of their quality. As for other Golden, CO knives, my wife now carries a Native, and I still have one of the smaller Centofantes in G10. Both are well-made, excellent production knives.

In fact, the only lemon I've ever gotten was a Jot Sing Khalsa with a bad liner lock. I don't recall if it was made in Golden or Seki City (the Jots were made in Seki, right?), but Spyderco made good on it awfully quick.

While I'm not really wild about Spyderco's move toward smaller blade knives, I recognize that there is a clear market out there because of the legalities of carry in some places, and I respect Sal's decisions. I'm still waiting for that perfect combination of form and function, and I'll keep looking at Spyderco products in the search. Actually, the very first Spyderco I owned was damned close with the exception of the steel (a big factor, of course). If only Sal & company would put out something like a G-10 Standard with VG-10 steel. Man, I like that little knife, but ATS-55 just doesn't hold a candle to the VG-10 in my Calypso Jr. LW or the 154CM in my Benchmade.

Ok... enough rambling. My point? In terms of the big picture, Spyderco may drop the ball here and there, but such slips are uncommon from where I sit. And don't the company's good points by far outweigh any negatives? As long as Sal & Co. continue to try and improve, they've got my support. Just ordered one of their knives last night, in fact.
 
Originally posted by Guyon
If only Sal & company would put out something like a G-10 Standard with VG-10 steel
I'd buy at least one in a heartbeat! :)

OTOH, I don't know about the production problems at Golden and it's not my business (though I do am interested in all that means Spyderco). But I do own some Spydies made in Golden and others made in Seki. The quality is outstanding (as you'd expect from a Spydie), but the Golden made ones are always a bit higher.
 
Having bought my first Spydie in the Army (lost my SAK in the field)back in '93 (an Endura--still going strong!), and now having upwards of 40 Spyderco knives, let me list all my problems with Spyderco...

None.

Okay, there was the flap over the "BRK Natives," but we all should know that story by now. (I'm actually satisfied with mine, and I've received no complaints from those who bought the other five.)

I've also learned a lot from reading stuff here on BF and in this forum, as well as Spyderco's forum. Stuff like production and business info, manufacturing challenges and problems, and the "view from the CEO." Yes, there are the "personnel issues," but not being there and knowing both sides, I can't comment intelligently on those. I can only judge from what I hold in my hand and read about in these "pages." I'm impressed.

Thanks Sal, for going above and beyond the call of duty, and putting up with all us knifeknutty fans!

And not to put down AG, I do hope he addresses ONE SPECIFIC AND WELL-DEFINED "PROBLEM" AT A TIME.

Well, at least it looks like charlesfmason will get his Gunting! Yay!

Nobody's perfect,

Karl
 
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