Good blade for heavy abuse?

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migo

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I have a tendency of using my knife for everything, even things it's not designed for - like loosening screws. I've chipped the blade working on an unusually tight phillips screw, so I'm wondering if there's any blades out there that can put up with that kind of abuse (on a folder).
 
The Spyderco Para-MIlitary, Military and especially the Manix. All of these can take endless amounts of abuse.
 
Thanks. Damn, Justin's gonna be laughing so hard when he reads that (he knows I'm not a fan of the look of Spydercos). At least the Manix doesn't look too bad. Any other reccomendations though?
 
I say spyderco becosue the blades are Thicker. Benhcmade has somegood knives but they are Thinner and i dont know how much they can take.have you ever thought of a Multi Tool
 
Thicker blade definitely is a plus. I have thought of a multitool, but multitools aren't sexy, knives are. Well Spydercos just look useful, not sexy, but they're better looking than multitools.
 
id personnaly get a leatherman and a Spyderco Endura. If you are going to purposly hurt the blade then dont spend alot on a good one.
 
migo said:
Thicker blade definitely is a plus. I have thought of a multitool, but multitools aren't sexy, knives are. Well Spydercos just look useful, not sexy, but they're better looking than multitools.
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So the plan is to impress everyone with your sexy flair as you pull out a cool looking knife and use it for something it isnt designed for? I think using a "multi tool" will make you look like less of a "tool". Multi tools also include blades for cutting. So why not carry a knife for cutting, and a multi tool you can whip out for suitable tasks.
 
The high flat grinds on the Manix and similar models plus the very pointy tips they have don't lend themselves well to working with screws. For that that kind of work you want a blade less optomized for cutting ability and more for non-knife work. I'd simply get a swiss army knife. If you are really set on a single blade knife I would look into a sabre ground sheeptfoot pattern.

-Cliff
 
acolonelofcorn said:
So the plan is to impress everyone with your sexy flair as you pull out a cool looking knife and use it for something it isnt designed for? I think using a "multi tool" will make you look like less of a "tool".
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How about you answer the question or just stay out of the thread. Besides, you can't open a multitool one handed. (And don't go trying to prove me wrong, I can open most SAKs one handed but that doesn't mean I consider doing so to be viable).
 
Cliff Stamp said:
The high flat grinds on the Manix and similar models plus the very pointy tips they have don't lend themselves well to working with screws. For that that kind of work you want a blade less optomized for cutting ability and more for non-knife work. I'd simply get a swiss army knife. If you are really set on a single blade knife I would look into a sabre ground sheeptfoot pattern.

-Cliff
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Can you suggest any examples? I have absolutely no clue what sabre ground or sheepfoot pattern is.
 
migo said:
How about you answer the question or just stay out of the thread. Besides, you can't open a multitool one handed. (And don't go trying to prove me wrong, I can open most SAKs one handed but that doesn't mean I consider doing so to be viable).
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I did answer your question, since you are a tool wanting to look "sexy" while abusing a knife. First off, you will "look" like an ignoramus, and anyone with half a wit would suggest you get a multi tool. Who cares if you cant open a multi tool one handed- what is your other hand doing? jammed in your pocket so you can look "cool"? Or do you only have one hand? in which case you arent looking very sexy anyways.

also: Dont try to tell me what or where to post. I am just posting exactly what everyone knows, by your own admission: you are a TOOL, so why not wedge your head into the screw to loosen it?
 
I think you will mess up any blade eventually if used as a screwdriver- eventually you're gonna find a screw that requires more torque than that sharpened cutting implement can handle.

I'd use a screw driver for screws.

To me, a heavy use knife will do most all outdoor chores well and beg for more- chop branches, quarter logs, light prying, bone cutting, hard use = fixed blade. I wouldn't consider any folder that I've used in this category, the blades just arent big enough and the locks not strong enough for my tastes and under very heavy use. That's not gonna stop me from getting a Manix though!

Also, as far as driving screws goes, I think that any blade with a thin enough profile to act as a screwdriver will almost definetely not have the strength to handle the job.

What I do is carry a backpack with a bunch of basic tools in it- most often used wrenches, sockets, one of those screwdriver with interchangeable bits. Usually a hatchet, a sak and a Busse NO....But then, I don't mind hoofing around a 50lb pack and looking like I might be the world's oldest school kid.

Don't want to take this thread off topic, apologies if I did. I was just trying to point out that if you want to be able to do any job that comes up you need more than one tool. At least in my experience.
 
No, you didn't answer my question, I asked what knife blade would be good. You didn't answer that in the least. And you're making yourself look like a tool more than anything else by insulting me. All it shows is that you don't have a clue about the topic at hand and are trying to appear smart by thread-crapping.

Edit: Directed at acolonelofcorn
 
roughedges said:
I think you will mess up any blade eventually if used as a screwdriver- eventually you're gonna find a screw that requires more torque than that sharpened cutting implement can handle.
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Probably, I already found that out with my current knife, but the longer it lasts the better.

I'd use a screw driver for screws.

To me, a heavy use knife will do most all outdoor chores well and beg for more- chop branches, quarter logs, light prying, bone cutting, hard use = fixed blade. I wouldn't consider any folder that I've used in this category, the blades just arent big enough and the locks not strong enough for my tastes and under very heavy use. That's not gonna stop me from getting a Manix though!
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Well I don't do that much heavy work (I haven't cut anything recently that would conceivably put any strain on the lock), just that I use my knife for everything.

Also, as far as driving screws goes, I think that any blade with a thin enough profile to act as a screwdriver will almost definetely not have the strength to handle the job.
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Well, I've had reasonable success using the back side of the blade.

What I do is carry a backpack with a bunch of basic tools in it- most often used wrenches, sockets, one of those screwdriver with interchangeable bits. Usually a hatchet, a sak and a Busse NO....But then, I don't mind hoofing around a 50lb pack and looking like I might be the world's oldest school kid.
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Yeah, that works if I have a back pack but I don't always wear one and the knife's the only thing I carry consistently, so that's why I'm looking for one that can put up with my treatment (better).

Don't want to take this thread off topic, apologies if I did. I was just trying to point out that if you want to be able to do any job that comes up you need more than one tool. At least in my experience.
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That was OK, at least you adressed the question to some degree. I realise that more than one tool is a necesity, but it's nice having a one size fits all solution for when something unexpected comes up.
 
Migo,sounds like a Strider for you. Perhaps a Buck Strider if that fits your spending patterns better. You may also find a tanto more fitting to your uses,I always had good luck with a Cold steel Voyager. Its thick tip will hold up better to your uses.

One of the problems with this forum is many folks can't just answer the question that was asked,and Lord help you if you happen to use your knife in a differant way then they see fit in their world.

Also keep in mind this is a place of knife owners, not jammed packed with many real hard core users. Look at all the "what do you use your knife for threads" you"ll see the top 3 uses are opening mail,trimmimg threads,and cutting food.
 
migo said:
Thicker blade definitely is a plus. I have thought of a multitool, but multitools aren't sexy, knives are. Well Spydercos just look useful, not sexy, but they're better looking than multitools.
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look at this statement. knives are tools, and tools are supposed to be used. The best functioning tools are usually not "Sexy". I made light of the fact that you are seeking some kind of metrosexual ideal in your choice of knife. I do have a sense of humor, and if you read the above statement, you will see what I am laughing about. sorry for jerking your chain, but I had no choice.

Really, what would suit your needs is a custom made knife with a tip designed like a mini screwdriver. I am sure one can be made really "sexy", but it might cost you. the other choice is grinding the tip down on a regular knife until it is a mini screwdriver.

But here is the best choice: get one of the mini tools here:atwood knives
it would fit on your keyring and they look really sexy. ;)
 
I would get a screwdriver, I can't imagine why you would want to pry and unscrew things with a knife, much less a folding knife. First I thought you had meant "Heavy USE," not "Heavy ABUSE," but evidently I was wrong. I can't say that I'd recommend ANY knife to abuse, but if you want one that will take it, you can't go wrong with the Manix. Hey, maybe you can get some kicks out of beating up a Spyderco, since you mentioned you weren't real fond of them. That's what I would do. A Buck Strider or a real Strider would be better, but they're a tad expensive.
 
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