Good blade for heavy abuse?

Starfish said:
Actually, from what I understand - D2 is great for edge retention, but not so great for toughness (at least, I think that's the proper term). If your selection criteria for a knife is ability to pry and twist, I'd not consider a knife with D2 steel.

Matthew
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I think that depends on how hard the heat treatment is set. However most manufacturers run D2 fairly hard for the edge retention benefit. It's not entirely the steel's fault ;)

back to topic:

For a prying knife you generally want a softer steel/heat-treat so you bend a tip rather than have it snap off and the possibility of injury from either the flying tip or the now-unsupported knife. SAK steel is a good choice... better yet is an implement designed for it. ;)
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Here's another, Camillus Electrician's knife with a screwdriver built in:

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18 bucks at knifecenter. 25 bucks for the Case version that's slightly sexier. Spin again.
 
UnixDork said:
Here's another, Camillus Electrician's knife with a screwdriver built in:

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18 bucks at knifecenter. 25 bucks for the Case version that's slightly sexier. Spin again.
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That doesn't look too easy in the one handed department, but you're right, it is a good looking knife.
 
Carry a Leatherman or Victorinox multitool to do the stuff that would be knife abuse, and carry a nice folder for normal cutting. :cool:
 
migo said:
Knives, however, are supposed to be sexy.
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I must have missed that one.

Why does it have to be sexy? Sexy isn't always functional.

I'm starting to wonder if this thread isn't really a joke, masterminded by someone here who knows what will piss people off.
 
Knives are supposed to be sexy for the same reason clothes and cell phones are supposed to be sexy.
 
rover said:
You need a Strider. I cut through a 1 millimeter steel cable last night with my AR. They will put up with just about any abuse.

The Buck/Strider is also a good choice.
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How did you do that? And:

What was it, that gave your Strider that special strength, to cut through that cabel, compared to other knifes?

I tend to say a Leatherman Wave or Swisstool spirit is the right choice. OK you loose some edge retention, but if that is an issue, carry a tool for general use and a good knife for cutting.
 
migo said:
Knives are supposed to be sexy for the same reason clothes and cell phones are supposed to be sexy.
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Why, because mass consumer marketing has brainwashed you into believing that load? Pure Bull Sh!t.

Clothes are just body coverings, cell phones are devices for communicating, knives are tools for cutting.

Fool.
 
Blop said:
How did you do that? And:

What was it, that gave your Strider that special strength, to cut through that cabel, compared to other knifes?

I tend to say a Leatherman Wave or Swisstool spirit is the right choice. OK you loose some edge retention, but if that is an issue, carry a tool for general use and a good knife for cutting.
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Cable on bench, edge against cable, pushing with my left hand against the back of the blade.

I don't know what makes em' tougher than other knives, I use em' I don't design em'. Probably just a combination of good design and good materials.
 
Blop said:
What was it, that gave your Strider that special strength, to cut through that cabel
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It was made out of hardened steel, that would be pretty much all that is required.

-Cliff
 
acolonelofcorn said:
Why, because mass consumer marketing has brainwashed you into believing that load? Pure Bull Sh!t.

Clothes are just body coverings, cell phones are devices for communicating, knives are tools for cutting.

Fool.
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Yeah, A girl in a burlap sack always turns my head. And my Pinto is just as cool as that Viper parked down the street.

Clothes, weather you would like to believe it or not, have become more that body coverings. Just about anything invented evolves beyond its original intended function, many times in order to become more visually apealling.

It's a pretty normal human trait to want things to look good.
 
Sexy is as sexy does. If one of the first requirements for your clothes, car, knives or whateverelsehaveyou is that they be "sexy" then you have other things to worry about beside the sexiness quotient of your latest purchase.

I've got an idea. Let's all take two knives into a bar, restaurant or whatever your leisure esablishment of choice is and strike up a conversation with a woman there... and when you pull out your knife(s) to cut your steak, pop her bottle cap or even screw in a loose screw be sure to ask her which knife looks more sexy while its working.

is this starting to sound absurd yet?

I sincerely hope so.

For me, a knife is sexy if it does its intended job and does it well. End of story.

Flash might equal cash (with the amount of consumer debt in this country that is usually a crock too though) but flash sure doesnt equal sexy. I don't care if we're talking about knives, clothes, a car or whatever else.

If sexy is a prerequisite you don't need a tool. You need a totem of invincible superficiality.
 
rover said:
It's a pretty normal human trait to want things to look good.
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Indeed, but we're not talking about things like clothes, cars, etc. They can be considered a status symbol and people want them to look good.

We're talking about a knife here. A tool. A slab of steel that cuts things Sure, they can look good, but if you take just about any of those Bud K fantasy knives, how well will one cut next to something like a Sebenza? Is a Sebenza sexy? Not at all, it's a simple design.

THat's not to say we're not influenced by the design of the knife, that's certainly not true. However, the design of a knife has less to do with visual appeal than ergonomics.

As far as looks, I think the best looking knife out there is a Buck 110. Very simple and elegant, and an execellent cutter.

I've never heard of anyone looking for a sexy hammer.

I hope we haven't reached the point that a knife has become a status symbol. Because if we have, I'm scared.
 
Psychopomp said:
I've never heard of anyone looking for a sexy hammer.
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It is common to see older tradesmen making fun of younger guys weilding the newer high tech hammers as they look really wild compared to the traditional designs.

I bought my brother a anti-vibe power driver awhile ago with a really funky design and he got no end of flak about the way it looked.

In the knife industry, visual appearance is up there in terms of how people buy knives, no you may not hear the term sexy, but just check around the forums and you will see comments like "Yeah, XXX may work well but they look dorky to me." and the opposite goes as well, there are always heaps of visual praise piled on various knives.

Appealing to the "tactical" black blade / speed hole market isn't performance driven either, but you have to admit it is done a lot. It isn't how I choose knives, or cars, or anything else, when looking for something sexy I would rather it be a woman, but to each his own.

-Cliff
 
How about you answer the question or just stay out of the thread.
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I am a bit late to this thread but I have to say, Migo, let's not be so terse with other members. Cliff is the most knowledgeable member of Bladeforums and a very nice and helpful guy. Most of us are absolutely delighted when he offers his advice. Really, the last thing you should want is for Cliff Stamp to stay out of a thread.
 
Cliff Stamp said:
It is common to see older tradesmen making fun of younger guys weilding the newer high tech hammers as they look really wild compared to the traditional designs.
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wow... I don't think I've ever actually bought a hammer. I still use the one my grandfather gave me years ago. Don't see a need for a new, sexy hammer ;).

Cliff Stamp said:
when looking for something sexy I would rather it be a woman, but to each his own.

-Cliff
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Yeah. I like those too. I don't really like my women to be too tactical. I prefer natural materials to G10, and teeth as opposed to D2. Those speed holes can be fun though... but sometimes good two handed openers are better. I'll stop now before this steps over the W&C line.
 
Go for a Leatherman Wave or any other decent multi tool. They've got all the basics and more.
 
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